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re: People voted "against Trump"...Prove it

Posted on 9/6/23 at 5:31 am to
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50497 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 5:31 am to
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Laughable that anyone puts ANY stock into polls


October of 2020, this was the RCP Polling average:

Biden - 51.4%
Trump - 46.9%

and here's the final results:

Biden - 51.3%
Trump - 46.8%

Seems pretty damn accurate to me.
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7739 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 6:08 am to
People here won't admit it.
But, millions have been brainwashed that Trump is "Extreme" by the MSM.

I'm not saying it's true, not saying it's logical. It's crazy. But, it's the truth. We'd have a better chance with Desantis.

I can already see the comments about Rally attendance. Who gives a shite. If you're going to a trump rally you're never voting for fricking Biden. Let's be real. People need to get over themselves and focus on winning, not on owning libs.
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7739 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 6:11 am to
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hopefully vote on logic and not emotion


Good luck there.
It's not happening.
I wish it was that way, but it's not.
They'll vote against "Extremist Trump".
Desantis is a better choice. He's younger, good looking, has a cute young family. It's way harder to push that narrative with Desantis.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 6:26 am to
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Hate to disappoint but rally attendance is pretty fricking anecdotal compared to properly conducted sampling

If you think that polling is not as much a propagandist tool as the current white house, abc, nbc, cbs, nytimes, cnn, fox, etc you are not qualified to identify 'anecdotal'.

I love the one where the one poll RELEASED after the election mimicked the cheating results to within 0.1

and had the nerve to call it a final poll before the election.

Too many hallmarks were met by the Trump campaign for your lies to be considered even remotely possible. The cottage industry being brought forward by marxists of being arbiter/fact checker in region after region only shows your side has ZERO interest in fairness and transparency, and the propensity to continue cheating.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23385 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 6:32 am to
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People here won't admit it. But, millions have been brainwashed that Trump is "Extreme" by the MSM.


It is either that their was massive fraud, many voters were brainwashed by the MSM, or both. Sadly no one really believes the American people wanted the idiotic Biden administration.

There is no logic that says people should have voted for Biden as he couldn’t have have been a worse candidate. Joe’s central campaign message was a completely fabricated story (“fine people”) to label Trump a racist. He mentioned it constantly and not one media outlet fact checked him ever on it.

It is illogical to have voted “against” Trump as the media narratives are projections of actual corruption and nastiness of the Biden campaign/administration.

Biden using a fake story to call his opponent a racist, corruptly using his political influence for millions of dollars in kickbacks, weaponizing the government to spy and attack opponents. We knew Biden did all of this prior to being elected and people still did it. It is quite astonishing.

We got what we deserved with the election of Joe Biden.
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 6:35 am
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 6:42 am to
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October of 2020, this was the RCP Polling average:

Biden - 51.4%
Trump - 46.9%

and here's the final results:

Biden - 51.3%
Trump - 46.8%

Seems pretty damn accurate to me.
yeah

1. many were saying the complete opposite

2. Seems WAY the FCK too accurate and likely planted for consideration after a cheat - plenty of others. Low integrity people like yourself would not be for fairness nor transparency... just like the Democrats... There is a skunk in this woodpile



Why would the greatest candidate in all of history be considered for biggest piece of shite in history? This man surpassed the transexual married homosexual obama - is this not dem NIRVANA?

DOES NOT ADD UP. This man surpassed ALL previous candidates, by a LOT! if you believe your cheating anecdotes and polling.

New York Post - The calendar says summer is ending, vacations are over and it’s time to get back to work. If you’re a Democrat, it’s also time to get serious about dumping Joe Biden as your 2024 nominee.

It’s been eons since the president has enjoyed even decent poll numbers, but amid a glut of bad ones, last week’s Wall Street Journal survey stands out.

With only minor exceptions, it shows Biden and his policies, especially on inflation and the economy, are wildly unpopular and that the vast majority of all registered voters do not want him to seek re-election.


[EDIT How could this possibly be true just a short 30 months after the HISTORY CRUSHING election of 2020?]

Instead, they want him to turn out the lights and take a permanent vacation.

Meanwhile, a Journal survey of just Republican voters paints such a rosy picture of Donald Trump’s support that he appears to be on an unstoppable march to the nomination.

The former president now holds a 46-point lead over runner-up Ron DeSantis, with the Florida governor’s backing at just 13%, continuing its months-long ­decline.

But it is among the larger group of registered voters from both parties and independents where the Journal poll has the worst-possible news for Biden and Democrats.

The top finding is that an astounding 73% of all respondents believe Biden, at 80 and in obvious decline, is too old to run for a second term.

Remarkably, that number ­includes two-thirds of Dems, the Journal says.

The contrast between the leading contenders for the Oval Office is striking.

Less than three years after Biden took the White House from Trump, the winner is in something of a free fall and the loser is on a roll.

[because the winner was NOT the FCKG winner he was the GODDAMNED CHEATER. Yes there is a skunk! It is the STOLEN FCKG ELECTION OF 2020. Yes there is a skunk - it is the FCKG democrats who STOLE THIS ELECTION and the civil rights of 10s of millions of Americans because Democrats are the CHEATERS]
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 6:45 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:00 am to
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many were saying the complete opposite



Who? What point are you making here? Here's some data to help you make it...
_______________________
2016 RCP average:
Clinton - 46.8 (+3.2)
Trump - 43.6

2016 election results:
Clinton - 48.2 (+2.1)
Trump - 46.1
_______________________
2012 RCP average:
Obama - 48.8 (+0.7)
Romney - 48.1

2012 election results:
Obama - 51.1 (+3.9)
Romney - 47.2
_______________________
2008 RCP average:
Obama - 52.1 (+7.6)
McCain - 44.5

2008 election results:
Obama - 52.9 (+7.3)
McCain - 45.6
_______________________
2004 RCP average:
Bush - 48.9 (+1.5)
Kerry - 47.4

2004 election results:
Bush - 50.7 (+2.4)
Kerry - 48.3
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:00 am to
Is it that hard to comprehend or believe that many, many, many people despise Trump?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93692 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:02 am to
Everyone knows there are plenty of weak minded males and mentally tds people like you and Cuckeye

Just not close to 81mil
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:07 am to
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many, many, many people despise Trump


According to exit polling, 44% voted against Trump rather than for Biden. No thinking person looks at that data point and concludes anything else.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46177 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:53 am to
The harvesters weren’t going into the ghettos, nursing homes, and cemeteries looking for red votes. These people weren’t “voting against” anything.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26937 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:57 am to
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If you have proof that people voted "against Trump" without referring to mind reading or polls, let's see it.


You might be retarded.
Posted by Jimmy Montrose
Lake Highlands
Member since Aug 2021
1421 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:05 am to
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and STILL draws thousands of people to rallies.


Ouch. Thousands.

I can't prove it, but I certainly voted "against Trump" rather than for any other candidate, and if Trump runs again, I will do the same. I know some knee jerk Biden supporters, but the majority of folks in blue states who vote to me seem exactly motivated primarily by anti-Trump animus.

Trumps redefined "a-hole" in this country, and that's saying something Why would this remotely seem counterintuitive?
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25173 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:08 am to
The headline should be "People" voted against Trump.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25173 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:15 am to
quote:

He is the most despised politician of the modern era.


This is probably true in the CNN screen licking set of TDS sufferers.
Posted by Jimmy Montrose
Lake Highlands
Member since Aug 2021
1421 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:33 am to
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This is probably true in the CNN screen licking set of TDS sufferers.


Sure it's just the media. Go out and talk to people in blue states, and everyone thinks he's just the nicest guy there is.

Holy frick, the media is actually helping Trump by making him the story. Any MAGA tool ragging on the media doesn't know who butters their bread.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35552 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 10:10 am to
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He is the most despised politician of the modern era.

There are others whom could claim the same title.

Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
5602 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 10:32 am to
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Respondents tell pollsters what they were thinking.


this may be where you are wrong. i can tell you that I would absolutely tell someone who I voted for. i really do not care. My 80 year old mother has never told anyone who she voted for. ever. just one definitive ezample.

quote:

You could make the argument that they're lying to pollsters, or than pollsters are pulling data from their asses, but that would be a pretty weak argument.


I do simply assume that pollsters are lying per se. however, when 95% of media is negative towards Trump, you certainly can see that some/many would not necessarily be completely open to a pollster?
Posted by TheQuestion
Member since May 2023
202 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 4:18 pm to
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You can say you’re confused about a lot of things without using so many words above. Parsimony is key. Best of luck
Let us know when you have proof that people voted against Trump and that was a reason why Biden won
Posted by TheQuestion
Member since May 2023
202 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 4:18 pm to
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This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 4:20 pm
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