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re: People Basically Approving of the Murder of the United Healthcare CEO

Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:59 am to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62639 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:59 am to
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How does this statement jive with what you said a couple posts up on insurance dependency and them being able to set the rules?
I'm not sure what you're confused about. They are the same thing. If you become dependent, you give up the ability to determine the outcome.
Posted by TarheelPete
Carrboro
Member since Jun 2024
615 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:59 am to
You posted a meme from a subreddit of people who literally chop their sons' cocks off, fantasize about illegals slaughtering their daughters' twats, and want to kill all conservatives and capitalists.


Before I join forces with the retards of reddit I would like to see more data.

Off the top of my head:

1. What are the demographics of the Obamacare users of Kaiser vs UHC?

2. What are the denial rates for workplace plans?

Forgive me if I am skeptical of brain raped Redditards and uneducated poors who use Obamacare.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36574 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:00 am to
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I'm not sure what you're confused about. They are the same thing. If you become dependent, you give up the ability to determine the outcome.



But you said if you don't rely on insurance, you give up control.

How are you able to cede control you apparently don't have?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62639 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:00 am to
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You can't think of one reason a CEO of what appears to be the industry leader in denials would be disliked?
I dislike lots of people. However, I don't go around murdering them.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133615 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:01 am to
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Similar to Titanic sub disaster last year where people were cheering while 4 guys died underwater. They had a countdown until their last breathe



What? No. That's not how it happened at all.

That sub went instantaneously



Implosion that turned them into jelly like that

There was no countdown to their deaths. Just the internet mocking people with far more money than sense deciding to piddle around in the deep in a tin can with an Xbox controller.

Gallows humor.

When the ultra wealthy perish on frivolous pursuits, there's not much empathy.


It's not like the Edmund Fitzgerald where they were men just doing their job trying to provide for their family



Though


"The Wreck of the Billionaire's Barrel" does have a nice ring to it
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
23212 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:01 am to
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Well, to be quite honest, insurance is nothing but theft.

Insurance removes accountability.

If I’m paying a doctor from my wallet, I know what I’m paying for, and the doctor knows what he’s billing me for. If the bill is too high, the doctor is there to discuss.

With insurance, I’m paying in advance for unknown services from unknown providers. The insurance company is responsible for checking the bill, and they’re awful at it.

Hospitals are shameless about billing because they’re not ripping off individuals. They’re ripping off an insurance company, and the insurance company is allowing them to do it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297993 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:01 am to
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These CEOs are like medieval lords. Making vast profits off of denying people coverage.

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Do yall really believe he is involved in individual denials? CEO looks at numbers and data, he is far removed from the operations side.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26950 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:01 am to
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You asked why people would dislike a greedy CEO.


No, you have to include the context. I asked why somebody would dislike a greedy CEO just because the greedy CEO is looking out for himself and his family, when that person just admitted that most/all people only look out for themselves and their families.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36574 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:03 am to
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No, you have to include the context. I asked why somebody would dislike a greedy CEO just because the greedy CEO is looking out for himself and his family, when that person just admitted that most/all people only look out for themselves and their families.



Because greedy CEO's actions/policies/whatever could have had an impact on someone who only looks out for "me and mine"?


It's a short bridge man, come on over
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36574 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:03 am to
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Do yall really believe he is involved in individual denials? CEO looks at numbers and data, he is far removed from the operations side.



He is involved in policy and culture which could lead to denials.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26950 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:04 am to
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It's a short bridge man


I really don't think it is, because you and I aren't communicating effectively.

I would think it's me but at least one other person understood exactly what i was saying.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133615 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:05 am to
Truly, the whole system is corrupt and fricked. It's shouldn't be like this
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62639 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:05 am to
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But you said if you don't rely on insurance, you give up control.
Try reading it again.

quote:

Don't want to pay for it yourself? OK. But be prepared, because you just gave up control.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297993 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:06 am to

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He is involved in policy and culture which could lead to denials.


So is every executive and many managers at the company.

He has a job to do like anyone else, and thats make money. This doesnt make anyone good or bad.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36574 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:06 am to
I'll finger paint it for you



I care only about me and mine

One of mine has some kind of medical disaster that insurance company denies coverage on

Mine dies. In my distraught state of mind, I decide to take it out on the head of insurance company
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87762 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:06 am to
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Well, to be quite honest, insurance is nothing but theft.


It’s gambling.

You’re betting something will happen; the insurance companies are betting it won’t.
Posted by Hogbit
Benton, AR
Member since Aug 2019
3091 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:07 am to
Meh. He was a tpos with far, far, far too much power over others lives.
frick him, he won't be missed.
The problem is there are thousands of other wanna-be tyrants to take his place.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62639 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:07 am to
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Well, to be quite honest, insurance is nothing but theft.
Then don't buy it.
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Insurance removes accountability.
Yep. Patients no longer have any investement in their own health, nor the costs of maintaining it.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36574 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:08 am to
My bad, thought you were saying "don't want to pay for insurance....."
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62639 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:10 am to
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Because greedy CEO's actions/policies/whatever could have had an impact on someone who only looks out for "me and mine"?
Nothing is more greedy than thinking that you're entitled to unlimited amounts of someone else's money. Yet that's what insurance customers seem to think. It's pretty clear your idea of morality is means-tested. Deny a customer's procedure = evil. Kill someone making a high salary = justified.

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It's a short bridge man, come on over
No thanks. I still have my humanity.
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