re: People Basically Approving of the Murder of the United Healthcare CEO

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Just pay your own way then and avoid insurance.

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Would be awesome if the world worked that way, but we both know it doesn't.

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Would be awesome if the world worked that way, but we both know it doesn't.

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My wife went 7 years without health insurance before we got married because of her being a small business owner. She makes solid money but it’s a ludicrous amount of money to insure yourself.

So she just paid cash for any medical visits.

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Societal instability. Societies function best when there is a basic moral code all share. Celebration of ceo executions is not a good thing.

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So, all you poors get back in line, I get it.

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Precisely.

Most arent happy with the system but it is what it is.

The anger toward a CEO is terribly misplaced and based solely on emotions.

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First they came for the Heatlhcare CEOs and I said nothing....because frick'em

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Nah. We're here because we expect "someone else" to pay our bills.

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I’m as big a personal accountability guy as anyone but your take on insurance companies is very odd.

The insurance companies sell a “product” and gladly take the money for it. Then when it comes time to pay, UHC denied at twice the industry rate. Seems they don’t want to be accountable to deliver on the contract. They seem to rely on unfair practices because they didn’t charge enough to deliver on their contract and still make the desired profit.

Does that mean the CEO should die? Not something I would do but to act like the man and his family didn’t benefit from his direction of avoiding responsibility is disingenuous at best.

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So, all you poors get back in line, I get it.

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Would you prefer single payer?
Everyone is afraid to answer.

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I guess I'm a populist.

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Yes, you are.

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Sorry, not sorry.

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I never said you needed to be sorry.

Populism isn't all bad. Just mostly. And usually not because of what it believes, but because of what it fails to consider.

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If being "populist" means being tired of and adversarial to elitist assholes who view and treat me, you and other citizens as worthless, disposable and acceptable collateral damage to further their individual aspirations of power and financial gain?

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Surely with a little thought you can see that your description is the same one that BLM uses, right? And feminists. And the LGBTQ community. And Climate Change activists. And ANTIFA. And communists, socialists, etc.

The only difference is that they define "Them" differently than you do in many cases.

In the feminists "Us vs Them" model, "Them" is the patriarchy.

For BLM it's white people.

Etc.

Your analysis is every bit as mindless and fueled by insectile, hive-mind anger.

The only difference is the group you put in the blank "Them" = ___________.

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The insurance companies sell a “product” and gladly take the money for it. Then when it comes time to pay, UHC denied at twice the industry rate. Seems they don’t want to be accountable to deliver on the contract. They seem to rely on unfair practices because they didn’t charge enough to deliver on their contract and still make the desired profit.

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It also helps to have some well placed people in congress to help out when people get too upset at the current state of health insurance With enough lobbying dollars and political support you can protect even the most corrupt of industries and call it free market capitalism and democracy, regardless of popular support.

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I would prefer to get gov and insurance completely out of the equation.

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Will never happen.

So whats the solution?

Denied claims are not in and of themselves a bad thing

The health care sector has a massive (and I mean massive) problem with over billing and outright fraudulent claims

I find it interesting that the same people who think insurance companies shouldn’t scrutinize claims are the same people who complain about high monthly premiums.

It’s widely understood that auto insurance premiums go up every year because of corrupt PI attorneys and chiropractors gaming the system with bs “medical injures” from fender benders

Yet people don’t want to admit it happens in health care too