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re: Pay off National Debt - sell Federal Land ?

Posted on 7/10/17 at 6:14 am to
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 6:14 am to
No.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299445 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 6:19 am to
quote:

A majority of the land is worthless desert, grassland, or rock.


Give it back to the natives.
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 6:36 am to
quote:

I don't think the liberals that have created this welfare state should get off easy by selling land
perfect example as to why politics are so fricked up and the people who make it that way. OP even said...

quote:

I know that most democrats will hate this due to their communist leanings.
this is clearly NOT a liberal idea, liberals are the ones who want to protect the land, but this is an idea you dont like, so you blame the other side for it.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20073 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 8:18 am to
quote:

this is clearly NOT a liberal idea, liberals are the ones who want to protect the land,


Which is weird because conservativs used to be the ones who were environmentally friendly.
They wanted to "conserve" the land.
Now they just want to sell it off so it can be turned to shite. No thanks. I'm not interested in living in China.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 8:28 am to
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The Fed Government ownes 47% of all land west of the Mississippi River. That comes up to roughly 246 million acres of land.


Isn't a very large portion of that land just desolate areas that are totally unsuitable for development?
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 2:49 pm to
If the federal government is going to give up any federal land, it should be given, without any strings attached, to the Native Americans in that area. They should then be allows to develop or sell the land as they see fit.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
22098 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 9:45 pm to
That 19 trillion includes intragovernmental debt. The actual outstanding debt is 14 trillion. Interestingly, the figure that most matters, the cost of servicing outstanding governmental debt, has fallen drastically. It's only 7% of tax revenues last year. It was 17% in 1995 despite much lower total debt. We totally need to get spending under control, but we are no where near any kind of fiscal crisis. Japan is puttering along fine with over 200% GDP in governmental debt
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 12:41 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 9:54 pm to
You know, I would like to help out the refugees with our additional land.... not in the continental United States, but put them in the most isolated wilderness of Alaska with no voting rights. That way we can feed them, keep them alive, and the bare minimum, all while negotiating with the wonderful Arab states on bringing them back there. Maybe we can get Canada in on this and they can help us with the Yukon, Northwest Territories and Nunavut.

I mean why not prove we're the biggest humanitarians in the world and try to improve the Middle East at the same time?
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
59252 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 9:57 pm to
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Sure it does. If we cant buy China's products then they fail as well. That's why it won't happen.


I'm trying to follow your logic here but it's like you're comparing apples to oranges and saying they're both helicopters.

Whether we buy Chinese goods or not has no bearing on deficit spending (other than fricking over American manufacturing for damned-near slave labor overseas).

China has no control over whether we fail or not because China has no say-so in the root cause of the problem which is out-of-control Congressional spending (especially on social programs).
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15294 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:31 pm to
quote:

Give it back to the natives.


I like it
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 6:54 am to
Just charge more than zero for estate taxes.
Let the dead pay down the national debt. Trumps tax plan is sweetheart deal for the trump family. No estate tax.

Obviously debt just gets bigger. Trump wants more war spending. :Wave flag here:.
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 6:55 am
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59252 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:10 am to
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Give it back to the natives.


I'm a native. I was born and raised in the US (as were many generations of my family).
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44416 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:23 am to
The Federal gov't shouldn't own land at all.
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