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"Patriot" is an odd term for those fighting against Government tyranny
Posted on 5/22/22 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 5/22/22 at 5:39 pm
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Maybe it's just semantics but I find it strange that those at odds with the current government would chose this term. Personally, I only have allegiance to God and support freedom and liberty for all. Once the US turned against me and against freedom, I became unsupportive of the country and actually find it questionable to fly the flag. I don't recognize this country anymore and do yearn for what the founders envisioned but I'm not sure that the current USA will ever represent that vision again.
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noun
One who loves, supports, and defends one's country.
A person who loves his country, and zealously supports and defends it and its interests.
One who loves his country, and zealously supports its authority and interests.
Maybe it's just semantics but I find it strange that those at odds with the current government would chose this term. Personally, I only have allegiance to God and support freedom and liberty for all. Once the US turned against me and against freedom, I became unsupportive of the country and actually find it questionable to fly the flag. I don't recognize this country anymore and do yearn for what the founders envisioned but I'm not sure that the current USA will ever represent that vision again.
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 5:41 pm to Landmass
The country isn't the government; it's the constitutional foundation which the government is constantly infringing on and attempting to infringe on
Posted on 5/22/22 at 5:41 pm to Landmass
So you would exclude George Washington from a list of patriots?
Interesting and illustrative.
Interesting and illustrative.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 5:44 pm to Landmass
But, but, but I was always taught in the private schools I attended patriots are destined to fight against tyrannical gooberment. What we have now appears to be overplaying its hand and the people will rise in November unlike anything you and I have ever seen at the ballot box.
People of every stripe, creed, color and party are complaining about what is happening.
People of every stripe, creed, color and party are complaining about what is happening.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 5:45 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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So you would exclude George Washington from a list of patriots?
Interesting and illustrative.
George Washington was fighting for a nation that already declared independence.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 5:47 pm to Timeoday
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People of every stripe, creed, color and party are complaining about what is happening.
One guy at work who is a minority and definitely not a Republican supporter told me last week about Biden "this cat is hurting us all." It was encouraging.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 5:47 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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So you would exclude George Washington from a list of patriots?
before he won he was a rebel leader
Posted on 5/22/22 at 5:48 pm to Landmass
The United States is like a bad marriage trying to stay together for the kids.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 5:49 pm to TrueTiger
Right. George was a patriot of the US, which had declared independence from the tyrannical government that they were fighting against. That's not happening with so-called patriots today. I just find the term an odd choice as it implies a devotion to a side which they are in actuality against.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 5:50 pm to Landmass
this country and it's flag will always stand,.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 5:50 pm to Landmass
I kinda think you answered your own question.
I consider myself a Patriot because I haven’t given up Yet!
Posted on 5/22/22 at 5:51 pm to Jack Carter
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The country isn't the government; it's the constitutional foundation which the government is constantly infringing on and attempting to infringe on
I agree with this and it is the closest thing that I can use to bridge the gap yet the term still bothers me, as does the pledge of allegiance. I'm not allegiant to any flag.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 5:53 pm to Landmass
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noun One who loves, supports, and defends one's country. A person who loves his country, and zealously supports and defends it and its interests. One who loves his country, and zealously supports its authority and interests.
I don’t know why you would be confused, unless you actually think that our government, at many levels, but especially the federal level, actually upholds it’s oath to support, protect, and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. Nobody with a brain thinks that, do they?
Posted on 5/22/22 at 5:53 pm to Rohan Gravy
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consider myself a Patriot because I haven’t given up Yet!
Good man. And we shouldn't but the gap is so wide that there has to be a real reckoning. The abuses were too great to just go back to business as usual. As the Declaration of Independence states, when this government becomes that which we fight against, we should cast it off and form a new one.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 6:22 pm to Landmass
If ever the Time should come, when vain & aspiring Men shall possess the highest Seats in Government, our Country will stand in Need of its experienced Patriots to prevent its Ruin. - Sam Adams
Posted on 5/22/22 at 6:26 pm to Landmass
The government is not the country…
Posted on 5/22/22 at 6:30 pm to Landmass
You're confusing "government" with "country." I love my country, but despise its government.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 6:49 pm to Landmass
Old saying:
Conservatives love America, hate the government.
Liberals hate America, love the government.
Conservatives love America, hate the government.
Liberals hate America, love the government.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 6:53 pm to Landmass
Country =/= government
Posted on 5/22/22 at 6:57 pm to Landmass
I felt this way for about a week last year. Then realized I was accepting defeat, said frick that and untwisted my panties.
I love my country, I despise and mistrust the government. Even after we reclaim our country and "fix shite", I will never ever trust the government.
I love my country, I despise and mistrust the government. Even after we reclaim our country and "fix shite", I will never ever trust the government.
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