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re: Passing a law designating Islam as a political movement

Posted on 8/16/26 at 12:55 pm to
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 8/16/26 at 12:55 pm to
Love it or leave it
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43553 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 12:55 pm to
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I feel bad for my grandkids. Islam must be stopped now before our country is gone. This is not going to end well if something is not done now. Congress must act and make Islam illegal in this country. They are terrorist. Every single one of them. If I’ve overstepped the rules of the sever I do apologize. I just love my country


Your grandkids wont have to fight that war, were about 3 generations from that.

But I can assure you people like Boom33 who through some sort of virtue and intellectual morality will virtually assure the US is not the same country it was designed to be.

To be fair also, the political ruling class is allowing this to happen through 3 fronts RIGHT NOW:

1) Legal Immigration via Visa Scams
2) Illegal Immigration via Open Border
3) Lack of will to turn away non Western Ideologies.

And when I mean political ruling class, this includes Republicans.

Gen Delta will have to decide if the US is really going to exist in current form or become a real Economic Zone with no cultural identity.
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
3777 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 12:57 pm to
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I'm also saying that if the government won't do it, under the 2nd amendment We the People Should.


What should we the people do with the guns that we have a right to keep and bear that we are not already allowed to do, i.e., self-defense and to save the lives of others that are facing an immediate threat?

Are you suggesting that we should just shoot to kill all practicing Muslims based on something that they might possibly do in the future?
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
3314 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 12:58 pm to
It will never happen and is an idiotic idea for the electorate. We have people on this board who would vote for a Muslim and have much less ban Islam. They come up with every excuse under the sun trying to defend it
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
5535 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 1:00 pm to
The purpose of the 2nd amendment is not just self defense, hunting, or recreation.
It is to organize armed resistance to threats to the country.
Islamists are that threat.

As for your second question, use your imagination. Mine is too creative for most people's likings.
But, as the phrase goes "They all have to go".
This post was edited on 8/16/26 at 1:02 pm
Posted by Boom33
Member since Jul 2026
644 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 1:01 pm to
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You must be referring to Exodus 21. In that passage, it speaks to the rights of a young woman being given as a concubine wife to a master of a house or his son. It speaks to how she must be treated as a true wife or daughter rather than being sold off to a foreigner, and how she cannot have her standard of living and care reduced if the husband takes on another wife. Lastly, it says that if he does not take care of her, she can go free rather than lack care. These were protections that were not common in the ancient near east.

Where it applies to your question is that the civil law of ancient Israel does not mirror the civil laws of modern day America exactly, so there is no selling of yourself into slavery to have financial and material protection, since we have other welfare programs that do that.

It is also different in regard to divorce, as the New Testament restrictions harken back to the original plan for marriage that was overthrown by sin, and the Mosaic law was not permissive of sin, but regulated it for a people who were hard-hearted, as Jesus said. The abiding principle of marriage is that it should be monogamous and permanent, with only a couple of ways out that do not result in sin. So, if you took a wife, you need to provide for her and not divorce her unless she cheats on you.



What does it even matter since all those people were going to hell anyway?

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Why do you care how God speaks to people? He can speak to whomever He wants, however He wants.

If your concern is for proof of His existence, then God speaking directly to someone won’t guarantee that. People like yourself are so hard-hearted these days that they may come up with any excuse not to believe it was real.

Anyway, He spoke through His prophets and apostles in order to have a written record that would be passed down for all people to have the same revelation. That is called the Bible. You have access to it right now. That seems to show some care for you.


You are the one who claims God hasn't spoken to someone in thousands of years. And if someone did claim to speak with God since then, you would only allow it to be "true" if that person repeats the bible to you.

Despite the fact that you just above said God changes his mind, even if for people condemned to burn in hell for all of eternity.

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No. You are already condemned for your sin and rebellion against God. You are guilty for breaking His law. He owes you no pardon and would be perfectly justified to let you die in your sins and then be judged for eternity for your rebellion against an infinite God. Instead, He offers you pardon for sin out of mercy, and all you have to do is receive it by faith. It’s free.


What a load of horse shite. People are guilty of something before they are born. Of which they not only have no knowledge of, but they also have no actual God to tell them they've done so.

They only know about it because you told them so based on a 2000+ year old book.

And yet the only form of "salvation" is only available to a small % of the humans that ever lived on this earth. And it comes down to believing some dude who claimed he was the son of God is killed by human sacrifice and if you believe that you are saved?

And of those people it doesn't matter if they do almost everything right, and some other guy murders millions of people - the guy who murdered millions goes to heaven and the others spend eternity in hell.

Can it get any worse? What a piece of shite God you have.

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It is for justice. You have broken the law and committed cosmic treason.



That's what you claim, yet you offer no proof.


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First, merely saying “Christ is King” is not sufficient. That is what the Pharisees said about the Father and disobeyed Him otherwise, and did not believe and follow Him by faith. They rejected His Messiah and Son and are judged for that. Those who are truly repentant and sorrowful for their sins can be forgiven. That’s the great promise for all people, even you. The guilt you may feel for the bad things you’ve done in this life can be taken away, not merely by calling Jesus Lord and King, but by believing that is true and following Him by faith.

Second, there are no good people according to God’s standard of goodness. Jesus said no one is good but God. God requires moral perfection, and all sin and fall short of His glory. So no, there are no good people who are condemned. All who are condemned deserve it.


If Jesus appeared to you today you'd reject him also. It would just be some guy claiming to know God and you'd be just like the Pharisees relying on scripture and telling them they must be a demon or whatever.

And if there are no good people, then it's because God didn't create them. So you're saying God creates billions of people just so he can burn and torture them forever.

What fricking nonsense.

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You show a basic misunderstanding about the claims of the Bible, so it isn’t surprising you feel this way. You also have a hard heart toward the truth, so that’s also not surprising. However the offer of forgiveness is still there for you. You need to accept it and trust that Jesus’ sinless life and unjust death actually provides forgives for you so you can have your guilt before God washed away. Believe in Him today, before it is too late.


Hey, these are your own claims. What the frick is a hard heart anyway? Someone who just doesn't up and believe your bullshite?

frick your God, he's a piece of shite who doesn't deserve worship. Your God sounds more like Satan....because it is.

Your God is more evil than any man to ever walk this earth. Billions and trillions burning and being tortured all because they don't worship him? And most of them never even had a chance unless they were born in your culture.

This post was edited on 8/16/26 at 1:05 pm
Posted by themunch
in motion
Member since Jan 2007
72560 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 1:03 pm to
Forgive him Lord.
Posted by Boom33
Member since Jul 2026
644 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 1:06 pm to
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Forgive him Lord.


If he gave a frick he would have told me these things directly.

According to people like you I was created for the sole purpose of being tortured and burned for all of eternity.

Posted by Boom33
Member since Jul 2026
644 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 1:07 pm to
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If it's a false dilemma, prove it false. All you have to do is show where your third option has ever worked. Up to this point, all you've done is make a baseless claim.

The floor is yours.


You don't even know what a false dilemma is.

Posted by Boom33
Member since Jul 2026
644 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 1:09 pm to
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t may be a technicality, but I didn't actually say that I would replace the 1st amendment with "Christ is King". I said I would be in favor of adding an acknowledgment of Christ in the preamble. I would also support the particular establishment clause, but I didn't say that it needed to be removed, only interpreted in light of Christ as King.

If you are going to accuse me of lying, you really need to support your claim. But, as I'm noticing, this seems to be par for the course with you. It's all hot air and no substance.


What about people who don't want to put your human sacrifice for the piece of shite God in there?

frick those people right, what's important is that you get to push your religious views on everyone else.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42292 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 3:07 pm to
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You don't even know what a false dilemma is.


You are avoiding the subject on purpose. Classic slo.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42292 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 3:21 pm to
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Got nothing else to say about the other things I highlighted? I spent quite a bit of time responding to your false accusations and misunderstandings. You aren't even going to acknowledge those?


He always runs when confronted with inconvenient truths.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42292 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 3:28 pm to
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The best way to combat the influence of Islam is at the ballot box.


Maybe but it’s not a fair fight as liberal traitors are aligned with Muslims
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42292 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 3:32 pm to
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more than religion; it’s race and ethnicity. The mainstream right wants to blame it on religion more than race. That’s why we’re losing


Maybe so but It’s very easy to play against racism like that.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
60318 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 3:39 pm to
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You don't even know what a false dilemma is.


Irony.

A false dilemma is a logical error that happens only when someone claims a choice has two sides, but hidden or forgotten options are actually available. The only thing you've offered is a spurious alternative and that does not rise to the level of being a legitimate option, thus the only false thing being proposed is your mythological third option.

Before responding again, you may want to look up the actual definition. (hint: it doesn't really have to do with math so much as it does the exclusion of not-allowed viable options)

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Exception: There may be cases when the number of options really is limited. For example, if an ice cream man just has chocolate and vanilla left, it would be a waste of time insisting he has mint chocolate chip.


Prove there's another option and you prove the false dilemma claim. Continue to avoid that and your claim is moot.

Again, the floor is yours.
This post was edited on 8/16/26 at 3:41 pm
Posted by Boom33
Member since Jul 2026
644 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 3:52 pm to
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Irony.

A false dilemma is a logical error that happens only when someone claims a choice has two sides, but hidden or forgotten options are actually available. The only thing you've offered is a spurious alternative and that does not rise to the level of being a legitimate option, thus the only false thing being proposed is your mythological third option.

Before responding again, you may want to look up the actual definition. (hint: it doesn't really have to do with math so much as it does the exclusion of not-allowed viable options)

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Exception: There may be cases when the number of options really is limited. For example, if an ice cream man just has chocolate and vanilla left, it would be a waste of time insisting he has mint chocolate chip.


Prove there's another option and you prove the false dilemma claim. Continue to avoid that and your claim is moot.

Again, the floor is yours.


Ok, in your most recent example you said:

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you either have to break the First Amendment's protection of religion for this group or they come in and do as they have done everywhere else.


You demand that only 2 options are available, aka false dilemma. You use this logical fallacy so that you can try to control the narrative and prevent any other possible answers from coming.

As I already pointed out the other option is the one that has been in use for 250 years and worked successfully.

You did the same thing in the other post also.

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Here is the choice your pathological altruism ignores: Are you willing to accept that long-term reduction in freedom for the existing population and their descendants in order to avoid any restriction on the growth of one particular religious group right now?


And just to make sure your false dilemma was set, you finished that with:

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And before you answer, understand that history shows us there is no third option.


You rely on trying to set and control the narrative with false dilemmas.

You just keep doing it over and over. The world is black and white and I'm going to define what those are and that is the only possible choices.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42292 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 4:03 pm to
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Prove there's another option and you prove the false dilemma claim. Continue to avoid that and your claim is moot.

Again, the floor is yours.


he wont because he cant and he will claim victory, classic slo
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42292 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 4:06 pm to
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As I already pointed out the other option is the one that has been in use for 250 years and worked successfully.


This idea of yours has already been destroyed, but you ignored it on purpose.
Posted by themunch
in motion
Member since Jan 2007
72560 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 4:06 pm to
If a lefty was searching for material to use to rebuke all things America, this would be the thread.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42292 posts
Posted on 8/16/26 at 4:07 pm to
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If a lefty was searching for material to use to rebuke all things America, this would be the thread.


Wanting to protect America from Islam is or isnt a problem?
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