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re: Panicans in shambles over the market today.

Posted on 4/14/26 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5283 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 12:36 pm to
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Is it because they realized the US blockade is non-existent?


I don't have first hand knowledge of how well it's been working, but are ships to and from Iran not being blocked?
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1986 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 12:42 pm to
ve made quite a bit as well, because that is what I pay my financial advisor to do. Buy low, and sell high. Markets are always volatile, and there is always opportunity. I knocked a few years off of my retirement during COVID when the entire World was freaking out.


I tend to put my "panican" tranches into their own separate (but usually related funds rather than intermingle with my dollar cost averaging so I can see how "right" or "wrong" I was:

the bet I made in the days following the panican selloff due to liberation day is up 26.95% in a simple 1000 indexed fune

the bet i made a couple weeks ago following the panican sell off over Iran and oll prices (straight is closed!!!!) is up 7.06% in a couple weeks just in VTI

this was as of close yesterday
This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 12:43 pm
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
10380 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 12:44 pm to
I think it’s the sexual impotence that’s driving their hissy fits
Posted by 904
BR
Member since Dec 2009
1181 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 12:46 pm to
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What index are you looking at? The Dow Jones total stock market index reached an all time high of 69,049 in January, we're at 68,953 as of 1:30 today. We're several hundred points above any high in October.

The market isn't just the S&P 500 or DJIA.


The Nasdaq is lower than in October (reached 24,000, in the mid 23,000s today), and the S&P and Dow are higher.

The total market index funds, VTSAX, for example, was 164 at the end of October and just made it back to 164 today. Fidelity's total market index fund is the same at 189. We're largely in the same place.

This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 12:51 pm
Posted by GTnerd
ATL Jawja baby
Member since Sep 2023
845 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 1:10 pm to
This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 3:19 pm
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1986 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 1:15 pm to


you seem panicked
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11356 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 1:19 pm to
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Imagine how high it would be if we didn't get heavily involved in a war that closed a major trade route.


How would the market react to a nuclear armed Iran able to charge tolls for all passing ships and threaten the oil supply of all its neighbors?

Too many people are only able to see what is right in front of them. Long-term thinking is non-existent.
Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
Member since Mar 2008
2176 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 1:21 pm to
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So, we should just allow a well-known terrorist group complete autonomy in the pursuit of arms. Or better yet, as those idiots Obama and Biden did FINANCE their pursuit of those arms? Sometimes, you have to flex your military muscle. A fact most Isolationist Democrats don't want to face.


Iran should have nukes. That will keep them and the Israelis in check. We can’t control Israel and an unchecked Israel will continue to blow up people and facilities that it deems threats. That puts us in the awkward position of backing their reckless plays. Let Iran have nukes and Israel has to change the way it behaves.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 1:21 pm to
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The S&P Index is up 5% YTD. That’s the broadcast measure of health of the Financial Markets. I’m sure it will be up by at least 20 % by year’s end. Our financial future looks great.


The S&P500 is up 1.7% YTD. 20% for the year would be a tough hill to climb with valuations but I’d love to see it.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
5616 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 1:25 pm to
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The Nasdaq is lower than in October


And yet 40% higher than one year ago today and gained 6,715 in that time. The end of October was the all-time high for Nasdaq and we're currently about 400 points off that. Is butting up against an all time supposed to be bad?

quote:

The total market index funds, VTSAX, for example


Specific fund pricing is not the market index. Fund holdings are weighted even in total market funds. Invidia makes up more than 6% of VTSAX, so fund performance is weighted toward certain individual stock performances. Funds are not an even sweep of an index. Same for FSKAX



Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
2909 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 1:27 pm to
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Is it because they realized the US blockade is non-existent?


yes i'm sure that's it. poor panicans you had him and he slipped away again!

Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
25819 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 1:32 pm to
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The rub is that it’s not a sustainable strategy.


Please quit sucking as a poster here.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 1:34 pm to
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Specific fund pricing is not the market index. Fund holdings are weighted even in total market funds. Invidia makes up more than 6% of VTSAX, so fund performance is weighted toward certain individual stock performances. Funds are not an even sweep of an index. Same for FSKAX


How do you think the S&P500 works?

Regardless, I agree with your overall sentiment. Small and medium sized companies are outperforming and lifting the “total” market.
This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 1:41 pm
Posted by 904
BR
Member since Dec 2009
1181 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 1:47 pm to
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And yet 40% higher than one year ago today and gained 6,715 in that time.

One year ago today, the Nasdaq was at 15,270 and had fallen -23.9% off of its peak of 20,056 from that February due to the tariffs.

Of course it's gonna be significantly higher one year later when compared to the low of a market crash.



As of today compared to October...

- Nasdaq is -1.7%
- S&P is +1%
- Dow is +2.7%



That's "largely in the same place", as I said. I hope it continues to go up from here.
Posted by GTnerd
ATL Jawja baby
Member since Sep 2023
845 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:12 pm to
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Iran should have nukes.


Worst idea ever
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37532 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:28 pm to
Am I supposed to get excited about a market that is on cruise control fluctuating between .5 and 1%?
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
27643 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:34 pm to
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Iran should have nukes
This quote could literally be the height of stupidity. Let the terrorist regime that chants "Death to America" have nuclear weapons.

Posted by JayDub
Member since May 2023
326 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:49 pm to
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...the weapons are on the opposite side of the globe and not a threat to us.


Can you say ICBM?
Iran may not have them today but they could tomorrow!
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
43793 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:50 pm to
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Is it because they realized the US blockade is non-existent?

I hate to type this but ... it takes a special kind of Gturd to type that.

Lol you are a retard.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143795 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:53 pm to
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Does this include Chinese ships?


A Chinese tanker carrying 250lbs of chemicals inbound made it through the straights and did a U-turn because of the blockade.

It’s working.
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