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Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:13 am to cokebottleag
No. The Alaskan pipeline is about 1000x more complex than any typical pipeline. They couldn't bury it because of permafrost so they had to put it above ground. They also couldn't simply lay it on the ground either because the crude has to be heated in order to have it flow during the cold winters and that would melt the permafrost so they had to raise it above the ground. All those vertical posts you see are heat exchangers that ensure no heat is transferred from the pipeline into the ground thus melting the permafrost. It's an engineering feat installing and maintaining that thing.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:11 am to upgrayedd
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No. The Alaskan pipeline is about 1000x more complex than any typical pipeline. They couldn't bury it because of permafrost so they had to put it above ground. They also couldn't simply lay it on the ground either because the crude has to be heated in order to have it flow during the cold winters and that would melt the permafrost so they had to raise it above the ground. All those vertical posts you see are heat exchangers that ensure no heat is transferred from the pipeline into the ground thus melting the permafrost. It's an engineering feat installing and maintaining that thing.
Don't forget they DID take wildlife into account too. Raising it as high as they have and the retention of the permafrost allows for the natural migration routes of game and their associated predators, who over the centuries have leaned to anticipate the prey migrations.
A buried line would done more than ruin the land. Birds, caribou, bears, wolves, the list goes on and on, would have nearly gone extinct in Alaska. The Inuit ways of life would be forever forgotten too.
Can't just pull 1 link in an intertwined chain without collapsing the entire thing.
ND is a totally different thing. Mistakes in the 1800's already altered the natural chain there, the pipeline can fit with the current conditions easily.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:21 am to Sidicous
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A buried line would done more than ruin the land. Birds, caribou, bears, wolves, the list goes on and on, would have nearly gone extinct in Alaska. The Inuit ways of life would be forever forgotten too.
Wut?
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:27 am to stout
quote:The Man.
What are they protesting at this point?
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:31 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
i guess every single protester is going to arrive via combustion engine
does this occur to anyone?
does this occur to anyone?
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:41 am to stout
I would like to add to this by asking, why didn't any of these people go to the town hall meetings when they were discussing pre permit plans? Also, who owns the current transportation system that is currently moving the oil? Maybe, just maybe they are the ones funding this protest. Then you just add in all the feel good starbucks baristas that show up for every little protest.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:46 am to ChatRabbit77
quote:Chavis is a big threat to Native Americans getting a job. How can they be trusted if the most high profile can't stop LSU from throwing for 300
he real threat to Native Americans is not a pipeline, its the rampant alcoholism and suicide. These kids don't care at all about the natives and just want to feel like they have done something with their degrees in lesbian dance theory.
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