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re: Our Orange President has spoken - Mexico WILL pay for the WALL

Posted on 12/31/18 at 9:58 pm to
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 9:58 pm to
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You just act like an insipid little fig, so I called you one. Half the posters on this board can telegraph your appearance in a thread. Basically, any thread with a positive Trump story, usually economic news, will draw you in. You'll dance your stupid little dance and ignore everyone else on the dance floor, transfixed by your own Googled intellect.

This is a great example:
VS: funding measures were vigorously debated prior to the election.
90: Reeeee prove it!!!!
VS: shares a few links
90: Reeeeee that's not vigorous enough!!!


You are a poor man's displaced. I'm pretty sure I could keep you up all night in this thread if I wanted to put in the work. You are that predictable.

what a sad attempt at face-saving

i'm "predictable" because particular subjects interest me and others don't, and i post accordingly? what an epic fricking burn!

i'll be predictable in another way, so much so i'll tell you outright. i'll dunk repeatedly on your stupid, angry arse in this thread and any others i post in as long as you'll hang around to allow. and what i'll enjoy most is the fact that all you'll be able to do is rage-post things like "fig" and "reeee"

now tell us more about how the illegal population has doubled. or just cry some more about me. i'm here for you either way
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 10:01 pm to


I don't really know what the hell you're talking about, but I like it.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 10:04 pm to
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I've seen it with my own eyes though. The black and Mexican population is severely underestimated. I was this "objective research" at one time, and the research methods are not meant to get an accurate number.

I just must of been raised around satan and his people, bc a lot of you guys are very very naive about our leaders and our system.

Your hyper-motivated, elite leaders will do just about ANYTHING to get more power or keep the power that they've already gotten. I'm not joking when I say you have to look at the cartels, isis, etc to understand the capabilities of many of our people.

do go on
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46486 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 10:11 pm to
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i'll dunk repeatedly on your stupid, angry arse




Face saving? I'm out here quadrupling down on calling you a fig.

And you can run your mouth all night. You were wrong as frick about the wall funding debate the other night and you're wrong about it now. Pretending otherwise changes nothing, but it wouldn't be you without it (and the constant self-upvoting).

And if you want to quibble about the number of illegals in the country, let me know whose numbers you want to use and from what era. I'm sure you'll be as accepting of others' numbers as you usually are.
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 10:14 pm
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 10:14 pm to
quote:

Then open the government since the house does not need to budget for it.


Why?
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 10:27 pm to
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You were wrong as frick about the wall funding debate the other night and you're wrong about it now.

nope. you & a few other toadies are acting like it was obviously not what he meant, but trump's clear position was that he'd easily get mexico to remit a one-time payment for the wall (confirmed by his campaign white paper). you can spin forever on the nature of this "debate", and you'll get nowhere.

i hope you keep trying though!
quote:

if you want to quibble about the number of illegals in the country

Oh we're not even close to the point of "quibbling". We're at the point where you've made unfounded and wildly-wrong claims, apparently out of thin air, and refused *repeatedly* to back them up. i'm not big on calling people gay slurs, but...
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 10:28 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46486 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:01 pm to
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nope. you & a few other toadies are acting like it was obviously not what he meant, but trump's clear position was that he'd easily get mexico to remit a one-time payment for the wall (confirmed by his campaign white paper). you can spin forever and get nowhere.

i hope you keep trying!


Only the first three bullets address a "one time payment".
From your post with the paper linked LINK

quote:

Visa fees: Even a small increase in visa fees would pay for the wall.



quote:

Trade tariffs, or enforcement of existing trade rules: There is no doubt that
Mexico is engaging in unfair subsidy behavior that has eliminated thousands
of U.S. jobs, and which we are obligated to respond to; the impact of any tariffs
on the price imports will be more than offset by the economic and income
gains of increased production in the United States, in addition to revenue from
any tariffs themselves.


Sounds a lot like muh Nafta.

And again, from before the election LINK

quote:

To fund construction of a new U.S. border wall, Donald Trump and senior advisers are considering various ideas, including the use of assets seized from drug cartels and others in the illicit drug trade.



You suck so hard. So hard. All of this was given to you the other night, but true to form, you just pretend like it isnt out there.

quote:


Oh we're not even close to the point of "quibbling". We're at the point where you've made unfounded and wildly-wrong claims, apparently out of thin air, and refused *repeatedly* to back them up. i'm not big on calling people gay slurs, but...


Yale study 16 to 30 million

39 million fake socials used between 12 and 16

The numbers have been all over the place for years, until Obama came along, and suddenly and mysteriously, in spite of record surges in illegal crossings, the number dropped to 12mil.

But you know all this already. See, this is why you're a gimmick poster. You will dismiss everything I just wrote based on nothing more than your declaration that its "wrong".
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
13263 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 7:06 am to
quote:

read the tweet


Because you'll believe anything.
Posted by SOKAL
Member since May 2018
4124 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 7:29 am to
You are not getting anywhere near the wall that Julio built.
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9746 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 7:45 am to
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Yea all those attending those rallies were chanting knowing that Mexico would be paying through NAFTA changes


I did the entire time. How did you not get that? Discussed NAFTA hand in hand with the wall.
Posted by GaDawg9977
Member since Aug 2016
2399 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 8:05 am to
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Mexico WILL pay for the WALL by umop_apisdn
The left has no clue what paying for something indirectly even me


Actually they do. Votes through welfare programs.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 8:10 am to
Ok. It will be paid for indirectly. Then explain it to me.

How does a renegotiated trade deal pay for the wall? Where in that deal are funds collected and then diverted to fund this boondoggle?

Seems to me, mexico indirectly paying for it sounds an awful lot like the US tax payer...similar to that welfare system that i know you guys love so much.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20640 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 8:59 am to
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now tell us more about how the illegal population has doubled.
Who GAF if it doubled or not. Just one more of those nasty mutherfurkers is one too many.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20640 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 9:06 am to
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trump's clear position was that he'd easily get mexico to remit a one-time payment for the wall
#1. He isn't going to get 1 or more plane loads of $s delivered to him from Mexico. Everyone with a brain knows no president of a nation would do that, right. Well, no smart president would.

#2. Saying "Mexico WILL pay for the WALL" is an open ended statement. He has no ending time on this therefore he has not lied. People that make any attempt to say he has lied don't realize their folly. He has not lied yet.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94321 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 9:12 am to
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Seems to me, mexico indirectly paying for it sounds an awful lot like the US tax payer...similar to that welfare system that i know you guys love so much


Tax payers building a wall that cost them 100 one time is like welfare. The iq level is so low on this board
Posted by Ham Malone
Member since Nov 2010
2653 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 9:20 am to
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He has not lied yet.


What a great sentence
Posted by redneck hippie
Oklahoma
Member since Dec 2008
6304 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 9:32 am to
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Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall


let’s see some real numbers and analysis. i’m open to Mexico paying for the wall indirectly. We’re two years in and all i’ve seen is tweets.
Trump should roll out graphs and real numbers to prove it.
Posted by Redleg Guy
Member since Nov 2012
2536 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 9:59 am to
quote:

let’s see some real numbers and analysis. i’m open to Mexico paying for the wall indirectly. We’re two years in and all i’ve seen is tweets. Trump should roll out graphs and real numbers to prove it.

Good point, some evidence would really help.
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
Member since Nov 2006
6036 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 10:06 am to
Trump's blind followers have no desire or care for facts. It's why Trump is increasing his lie count daily. But it is fun to laugh at them on here with the rest of society.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 10:07 am to
quote:

Only the first three bullets address a "one time payment". From your post with the paper linked

only the first three bullets, and the executive summary up front, which for the _th time, asserts that mexico will remit the payment within days and precedes the bullets with the following phrase:
quote:

There are several ways to compel Mexico to pay for the wall including the following:


yet another vach fail (and i don't just mean the failure to link the correct thing). not even a good try, but i like that you did it

that bullet is in the list of things supposedly being used to compel mexico. not only that, but the following words- not quoted by you- follow right after in the same bullet as what you did quote:
quote:

Again, we have the leverage so Mexico will back down.


quote:

Sounds a lot like muh Nafta.

which is, still, not a way to make mexico actually pay in any context. and usmca contains, still, no actual way to even pretend to do that.

don't worry about a strikeout btw, it's ok we're not keeping count of your many misses
quote:

To fund construction of a new U.S. border wall, Donald Trump and senior advisers are considering various ideas, including the use of assets seized from drug cartels and others in the illicit drug trade.

oh i won't deny this kind of walking back got floated *by trump allies* after the mexican president said no way they're paying for shite

the fact remains that the campaign's position, per released statements and not lifezette's sauces, remained that there'd be a one-time payment. and anything less is a backing down by your boy

quote:

Yale study 16 to 30 million

39 million fake socials used between 12 and 16

neither of your studies estimate the change in illegal population, especially not the one that tallies SSN mismatches over 5 years. neither one supports the argument that the illegal population has increased in the last decade. much less does either one supports a doubling over the last decade.

the yale one in fact also concludes a slight decline over that time.

lol, just lol at yet another pair of misses. at least you tried to back yourself up, if only after much prodding. keep it up!
quote:

The numbers have been all over the place for years

oh yeah, years. except the yale management study that was released in 2018. L,JL
quote:

See, this is why you're a gimmick poster. You will dismiss everything I just wrote based on nothing more than your declaration that its "wrong".


lmao keep crying about 90. i'll only get bored with it if you stop your feeble efforts at mixing arguments in there alongside it
This post was edited on 1/1/19 at 1:53 pm
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