re: Only empires are indivisible.

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I have never seen this suggested. There are numerous stories of families splitting over the Civil War.

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Certainly that isn't a story told by a statue.

I'm also being hyperbolic.

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We became a empire in 1865.

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No lies detected.

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it was another black guy that arranged it all.

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Yes, by capturing their enemy tribe.

Maybe the enemy tribe was making war on them.
In that case the enemy was acting criminally.
And that means that enslaving them would be legal, even under our own 13th Amendment today.

You should use the quote button.

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Just an FYI, you are now standing side by side with slave holding Plantation owners of the confederacy.

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No, not really. I'm not owning slaves by any measure, which is a pretty big difference.

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You really think the SC would rule against that just a few years after 600,000+ men and women are dead?

A convention of states can absolutely abolish everything in DC. From the number of USSC judges, to the President, to the Constitution itself.

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An Article V convention can abolish the Constitution itself?

I don't think an Article V convention is going to have the effect that you think it will.

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A union of independent states is what we are supposed to be. Not a landmass with some lines and supreme rulers in DC. Since the North won, that power has grown immensely to a point where they now hold more power than the individual state.

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Great, but geopolitics determine centralization far more than the obscure desires of some citizens. You aren't in the political elite, and citizens have very limited political capital to enact change.

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So who do you think would be able to stop several states from leaving? Why can't there be a peaceful secession?

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Several states leaving simultaneously would absolutely trigger a violent response. Given the demographic characteristics of the US, you aren't going to get results along the lines of something like the South Sudanese independence referendum or even the Catalonian independence referendum. You are assuming any part of the population of those states would be united, but that won't be the case. It wasn't even the case in the CW, like I've already referenced.

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There wasn't a major war when the Eastern Bloc left Russia.

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Except that there were several post-Soviet conflicts that immediately erupted, as well as several more that have lasted for decades, and geopolitical posturing which has resulted in another major current war. The USSR also collapsed, which isn't something the US is in danger of doing, especially relative to the rest of the world.

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There was no war when Sweden seceded from Norway.

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Except there was massive fears of a war for many years before the dissolution and already one war fought nearly one hundred years before the actual dissolution. There is absolutely nothing similar goin on in the US.

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The issue is people like you, want to continue this fricked up system that robs the riches of my labor to spend in wars to benefit leeches like you.

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Firstly, if you have a pension or a retirement plan, I'd wager a lot of it is based on US securities, which are among the most highly prized financial instruments in existence.

Secondly, I probably have a significant more money at stake than you do. That I understand the orientation of the US political economy is directly tied to the use of US dollars and US military policy isn't an indication that I'm getting anything from the state. Again, US wealth is buttressed by the use of dollars for balance of payments. So is your supposed hard-earned wealth. Why you can both invoke your labor and then not understand why it is valued indicates that you are thinking of everything in a vacuum. It is ridiculous position that you should carefully consider.

Regardless, if you want to secede from the US, go into the mountains and start training for your insurgency. Go get your foreign aid by working with intelligence groups, and start attacking. Participate in geopolitics if you think your freedom is at stake. Because you won't, or don't understand what is required for independence, I'm guessing you aren't really interested in independence and are rather more interested in complaining on the internet.

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Maybe the enemy tribe was making war on them.
In that case the enemy was acting criminally.
And that means that enslaving them would be legal, even under our own 13th Amendment today.

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Look at the big brain on Todd.

You still haven't answered my question. I will you again for the 4th time.

Do you think that Blacks, as a nation would have been better off being left in Africa not being brought to this continent via the slave trade?

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this fricked up system that robs the riches of my labor

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People that make this statement dont make much money.

So in this states centric paradise we are going to be living in there wont be any robing of your riches (taxes)? because once the federal money dries up (no military bases, no road money, no social security payments etc etc) the state is absolutely coming after your income.

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Prediction: Oklahoma would be part of greater Texas whether they liked it or not

Prediction:California would absorb anyplace out west that has adequate water

Prediction: Florida the Carolinas and Georgia would combine to create a power state

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Prediction: Every state would tax the shite out of its inhabitants.

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Prediction: Every state would tax the shite out of its inhabitants.

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Like that doesn't happen already