re: On the subject of 'U.S. citizens being detained'

Not a threat?

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The government has identified 18,000 known or suspected terrorists who reached the U.S. during the Biden administration, senior officials told Congress on Thursday.

Joe Kent, director of the National Counterterrorism Center, said they represent a “persistent” threat inside the country.

“The No. 1 threat that we have right now in my view is the fact that we don’t know who came into our country in the last four years of Biden’s open borders,” Mr. Kent told the House Homeland Security Committee as part of a hearing on worldwide threats.

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He said the 18,000 are just the ones his agency has been able to identify so far. He suggested that others could be lurking, particularly those who sneaked across the border.

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What paperwork? Private parties can transfer guns without paperwork, so your example is a horrible one.

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Even felons?
Actually, it’s not a horrible one.

You’d have to prove:
You received the gift from a person that lives in the same state as you.
You would have to prove that you are not prohibited from owning a gun. You would have to prove you are not a felon. Simply telling them would not work. It may take Leo some time to verify that you don’t have a felonious conviction in all 50 states. You would have to prove you are citizen.

So in the interest of safety and patriotic duty, they could hold onto your guns until that was proven.

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It's a federal crime to give a gun to someone you know or suspect is prohibited from owning one (e.g., a felon).

State Law Varies
Stricter States: Many states (like CA, CO, CT, IL, NY, WA) require all private transfers, including gifts, to go through an FFL for a background check.

Background Checks: Some states mandate background checks for private sales/gifts, even if not through an FFL.

Permits/Licenses: Some states require the recipient to have a specific permit or license to even receive a firearm

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Not a threat?

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None of your examples have anything to do with racial or cultural preferences, which was his framing (and the substance to which I replied directly)

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I don't think racial profiling is going to work as a justification for reasonable suspicion.

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But it wasn't random. A weed farm full of illegals, and only one of them was legal so he was detained while they verified. That same weed farm had 12-year-old illegals working too if you remember so ICE already probably assumed everyone there was a scumbag to some degree.

Now, if they are racially profiling random people walking down the street, then I agree with you.

Meme or not.

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There is a reason

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and that is we are flooded with illegal immigrants. Why?

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ow many Americans have illegal immigrants killed in 2025?

How many Americans has ICE killed in 2025 by asking for a paper?

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Speaking of irrelevant diversions

If the USA turns into Mexico or England and Germany turns into Saudi Arabia, is there a threat then? or do we let the people 100 years from now deal with it?

Do you consider the USA threat proof?

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Bovino confirms a real ID is not sufficient to verify citizenship

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The REAL ID requires documents proving you were born here or have legal status.

Proof of Identity & Date of Birth:
U.S. Birth Certificate (original)
Valid U.S. Passport or Passport Card
Permanent Resident Card (Green Card)

If they gave a REAL ID to anyone that did not have the documents above, they basically negated all the possible benefit for issuing the REAL ID in the first place. Everyone wasted their time by going through the trouble and expense of getting a REAL ID.

It's like putting on a concert and printing actual certified tickets and having someone print free fake ones that are accepted at the gate. Suddenly the real tickets have no value anymore.

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real ID is not sufficient to verify citizenship

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What do you carry to verify your citizenship?