re: Omar: This is not going to be the country of the white people

Posted by ShortyRob

Member since Oct 2008

82116 posts

Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:25 am to germandawg

Here's a question.

When one chooses to point out what some whites did to the Native Americans or Black people, why are they starting that conversation?

Or, more to the point, why is it even a "conversation"?

Seems to me the conversation should be quite short.

Person A - "White people did bad shite to the Native Americans and Blacks".

Person B - "Yep"

Conversation complete.

Posted by RD Dawg

Atlanta

Member since Sep 2012

28287 posts

Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:07 am to germandawg

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see y'all like the word "obtuse"....you have no clue as to its meaning and proper usage but you like the way it sounds...good for you...happiness is in short supply for some folks and if it makes you happy to misuse a word in this manner I say good on you!

LMAO!It was absolutely used in the proper context but "you have no clue as to what on means in the context of your inane ramblings" Is this how we do this?

Always the patent germandawg response when he can't comprehend that someone actually disagrees with 'em.

Most people with your arrogance actually actually have a case for it but sadly you've never made the case for it.

It's okay so long as you actually believe your long winded ramblings...I'm sure you're always the first person to give yourself an update.

This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 9:54 am

Posted by DawgfaninCa

San Francisco, California

Member since Sep 2012

20092 posts

Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:49 am to ShortyRob

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we can treat each other as individuals today and stop that nonsense

DING! DING! DING!

We have a winner here.

Posted by GRTiger

On a roof eating alligator pie

Member since Dec 2008

71226 posts

Posted on 5/3/19 at 10:00 am to JPinLondon

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This is not going to be the country of the xenophobics. This is not going to be the country of the white people.

Uhhhhhhh.....

Posted by ShortyRob

Member since Oct 2008

82116 posts

Posted on 5/3/19 at 10:01 am to DawgfaninCa

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DING! DING! DING!

It's funny because there honestly is no reason whatsoever to EVER utter the sentence, "Well white people did........."

Where is that conversation even going? There's only one direction it can go. It's a demand that whomever you're talking to take some level of responsibility for it.

Because if my response when someone says that is to say, "Yep....and?", they'll absolutely act like it's supposed to matter to me.

Well. It doesn't. IDGAF. I can't do anything about it. It happened. The end.

Posted by DawgfaninCa

San Francisco, California

Member since Sep 2012

20092 posts

Posted on 5/3/19 at 10:14 am to germandawg

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Likewise, it means you shouldn't condemn the entire white race because a small percentage of them supported slavery and mistreated slaves.

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Again, not condemning anyone...

So now you are claiming you don't even condemn white people who owned slaves.

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I am not in a position to do so in any manner...

Everyone is in the position to do so unless they own or owned slaves.

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this is not a nation of white people. Never was, never will be....lots of different kinds of people in the US...

NSS!

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thank the Christ...

Thank the decent white people who wanted non white people to be a part of this great country.

That's why the USA is a melting pot of all kinds of people.

We just want them to assimilate into the American culture which some of them are refusing to do.

They want to force the culture of their shite-hole third world country they came from upon the rest of us.

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because white people all alone will get up to some serious foolishness...ever spent any time in Utah or Idaho???? WOW....

Meh, there are a lot of fine people living in Utah and Idaho.

Geez, you sound like you haven't been in this galaxy and on this planet for very long.

Posted by DawgfaninCa

San Francisco, California

Member since Sep 2012

20092 posts

Posted on 5/3/19 at 10:31 am to germandawg

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Meh, Non white people never want to discuss the mistreatment of American Indians by other American Indians. BTW, calling them American Indians doesn't mean they are from India. If they can be called "Native Americans" then I want to be called an "American Native" since I was born in North America. They only want to discuss how some white people mistreated American Indians so they can condemn the entire white race for the actions of some white people.

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I don't see any problem with you wanting to be called an American Native...have at it...who would have a problem with that???

All the Progs and One Worlders who say, "Everyone in the USA is an immigrant".

I ain't no immigrant!

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If, however, you meant that "some white people mistreated American Indians so they can condemn the entire white race for the actions of some white people" when the topic of discussion is the fact that white folks mistreated Indians, which sure as the sun rises in the east did happen, and condemning all white people for some doing so, then you are merely stating that these people are capable of remaining focused on the topic of a discussion. Again, if these people staggered off on a tangent about the Dutch tulip wars in the middle of a discussion about the condemnation of the white race due to the mistreatment of Indians MOST people would find it a bit confusing.....It'd be like having a discussion with a 3 year old or someone with dementia....

You sound just like the Dems who keep saying that bringing up Hillary again after the election is over is irrelevant to the discussion about how President Trump is being treated by the same people who let Hillary off the hook for her crimes.

Apparently, you just don't have the intellect that's necessary to understand the relevancy of discussing what the American Indians did to their own people when bringing up the subject of how bad white people are because of the way they treated American Indians.

Posted by germandawg

Member since Sep 2012

14135 posts

Posted on 5/3/19 at 10:42 am to RD Dawg

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LMAO!It was absolutely used in the proper context but "you have no clue as to what on means in the context of your inane ramblings" Is this how we do this?

Absolutely wasn't....by definition I wasn't annoyingly insensitive nor slow to understand...I'll give you annoying as that is the point of having discussions in these forums.....insensitive not so much as I went into what was called a long winded, rambling diatribe....obviously being sensitive (quick to detect changes) not insensitive (not aware or able to respond). Also the opposite of slow to understand....in fact understood immediately that the other poster, whoever it was, was changing the subject....fully understood their point and the fact that it wasn't germane to the topic we were discussing but was relevant in a totally different discussion. We were discussing the mistreatment of native americans by white people.....they changed the topic to mistreatment of native americans by native americans....relevant topic of discussion, but only of a discussion of mistreatment of native americans by native americans or a discussion of mistreatment of native americans by all people....not by any definition of the word obtuse...thus the fact that some of you apparently like the word with a subtle confusion over its actual meaning. Understandable as we hear it used this way from time to time but it doesn't mean its being used correctly.

Posted by germandawg

Member since Sep 2012

14135 posts

Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:00 am to DawgfaninCa

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You sound just like the Dems who keep saying that bringing up Hillary again after the election is over is irrelevant to the discussion about how President Trump is being treated by the same people who let Hillary off the hook for her crimes.

It depends on what you and I are discussing. if we are discussing "how President Trump is being treated by the same people who let Hillary off the hook for her crimes" then it is entirely relevant to bringing up Hillary again after the election. If we are discussing how Trump is being treated after the election without the Hillary angle it would be strange....

So imagine this....2 anti-trumpers (at1 and at2) are praising the virtues of the FBI.....

at1 - "The FBI is doing a fantastic job"
at2 - "That James Comey is a great guy....gave Trump exactly what he had coming"
at1 - "the 2 agents who were having an affair and hated trump are gods"
at2 -"those same people let Hillary off the hook for her crimes"
at1 - "WTF?"

You see the discussion changed....it was about the FBI being good for fricking with Trump...then veered into a discussion of the same agency allowing Hillary off the hook. Valid points of view, such that they are, but a change in direction....

Posted by DawgfaninCa

San Francisco, California

Member since Sep 2012

20092 posts

Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:27 am to germandawg

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You sound just like the Dems who keep saying that bringing up Hillary again after the election is over is irrelevant to the discussion about how President Trump is being treated by the same people who let Hillary off the hook for her crimes.

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It depends on what you and I are discussing. if we are discussing "how President Trump is being treated by the same people who let Hillary off the hook for her crimes" then it is entirely relevant to bringing up Hillary again after the election. If we are discussing how Trump is being treated after the election without the Hillary angle it would be strange....

So imagine this....2 anti-trumpers (at1 and at2) are praising the virtues of the FBI.....

at1 - "The FBI is doing a fantastic job"
at2 - "That James Comey is a great guy....gave Trump exactly what he had coming"
at1 - "the 2 agents who were having an affair and hated trump are gods"
at2 -"those same people let Hillary off the hook for her crimes"
at1 - "WTF?"

You see the discussion changed....it was about the FBI being good for fricking with Trump...then veered into a discussion of the same agency allowing Hillary off the hook. Valid points of view, such that they are, but a change in direction....

Fail.

If we are discussing how President Trump is being treated after the election then bringing up how Hillary was treated by the same people who are now going after President Trump is an additional fact (alternative fact) that proves President Trump is being unfairly treated after the election which is the subject of the discussion.

This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 11:31 am

Posted by ShortyRob

Member since Oct 2008

82116 posts

Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:05 pm to DawgfaninCa

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DawgfaninCa

It ain't no accident that german threw out the white flag and isn't even attempting to address my posts.(of course, now, he's going to post some lame reason for not doing so)

Posted by Taxing Authority

Houston

Member since Feb 2010

63500 posts

Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:39 pm to ShortyRob

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It's funny because there honestly is no reason whatsoever to EVER utter the sentence, "Well white people did........."

Where is that conversation even going? There's only one direction it can go. It's a demand that whomever you're talking to take some level of responsibility for it.

The mis-attribution for historic people's behavior to current people's skin color is the worst kind of racism there is.

It's kinda telling that leftists want to hold current white people for actions of their ancestor's based on their physical attributes.... but they don't want to Japanese, Germans, etc to similar standards.