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re: Oliver Stone is starting to question the 2020 election. Uh - Oh!

Posted on 11/27/23 at 9:56 am to
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 9:56 am to
Ok
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
67670 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:08 am to
Oliver has always been a gadfly and
Provocateur. That’s his jam, He makes big bucks off of it.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5125 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:13 am to
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You do know he questions the election because he's adamant the 2000 election was stolen from Gore, right?


And?

You’re just an ideologue if you are sure the 2020 election was stolen but all the others before it were legitimate.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:15 am to
If you are SURE any of our elections were stolen, you are an ideologue.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74586 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:18 am to
It has been brought up here often the possibility of the deep state prodding certain individuals into acts of violence. Bizarre random acts seemingly out of nowhere all paraded by the media. Stonybrook Vegas even Dallas etc.. Very tinfoil hat stuff. Then I read this from a article on Jack Ruby, the CiA and how MKULTRA ended and STARGATE(CiA) began.

First there was this:

quote:

Jack Ruby’s psychosis was diagnosed by the same CIA doctor who had once killed an elephant with psychedelics


Dr West was paid for years by the CiA.

Then this caught my attention:

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West was indirectly involved in the STARGATE program which had a surprising amount of crossover with MKULTRA and its sister programs. While this particular project was undertaken by the Defence Intelligence Agency, the CIA’s counterpart in the Department of Defense, it was considered a CIA equity.

According to the document, “Serious government-funded research of both these domains began in 1973 when the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) initiated a modest effort to determine if a genuine anomalous phenomenon could be verified and to assess the degree to which it could be applied to general intelligence problems.” Coincidentally, 1973 is the same year that the MKULTRA program was officially terminated.

While the research project’s stated goal was studying anomalous phenomena such as remote viewing and remote interference, the experiments themselves focused on remotely altering someone’s perceptions and nervous system, essentially making the research dual-purpose. If it had been successful, the research could have been used not only as part of a psychic remote viewing program but to design a way to remotely interfere with someone’s perceptions, personality, or consciousness


What have they acheived in the last 50 years?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:19 am to
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If you are SURE any of our elections were stolen, you are an ideologue.


Out of curiosity, with the biggest budget and most power on earth, is there no reason to cheat?

If there is a motive to cheat, people will do it.

Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35236 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:25 am to
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Oliver has always been a gadfly and Provocateur. That’s his jam, He makes big bucks off of it.


Reasonable assertion.

So you would also agree that the people who make big money off of government largess would also use whatever mechanisms they have to tilt the elections in their favor and away from people “not in the club”?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57392 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:26 am to
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You do know he questions the election because he's adamant the 2000 election was stolen from Gore, right?


Completely irrelevant. You’re a pro at that.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:43 am to
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So you would also agree that the people who make big money off of government largess would also use whatever mechanisms they have to tilt the elections in their favor and away from people “not in the club”?

Which people you speak of who are "not in the club?" I'd love to know.
This post was edited on 11/27/23 at 10:44 am
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17008 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:44 am to
Global warming made Gore rich, gave him an Oscar, and he’s got more power attributable to the WEF than he ever had as a politician.

He was one of the main evangelizers for this faith based “science.”

frick him with a cactus.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80392 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:48 am to
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You do know he questions the election because he's adamant the 2000 election was stolen from Gore,


Our election systems are not credible.

Until we have credible systems all election results should be held suspect, even when the candidate of our choice "wins".
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:56 am to
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Our election systems are not credible.

Link?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74586 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:05 am to
Paper is paper.

Computers and AI do what exactly?
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39917 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:12 am to
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Trump is the only President in history who gained 9 million votes from the year he won, and lost his re-election/
again, make it make sense to us?


All throughout history...That statistical anomaly just doesn't happen. Especially for a basement dweller.

No one ever wants to discuss it.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:21 am to
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All throughout history...That statistical anomaly just doesn't happen. Especially for a basement dweller.

No one ever wants to discuss it.

And this has nothing do with Covid making it easier for the laziest and most disinterested people on Earth to exercise their right to vote?

Trust me, you do not want everyone who can vote to vote. Republicans wouldn't sniff the Whitehouse ever again.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39917 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:25 am to
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And this has nothing do with Covid making it easier for the laziest and most disinterested people on Earth to exercise their right to vote?


Did they exercise their right or did someone else exercise it for them?



Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80392 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:39 am to
Our election systems are not transparent and not auditable. That makes them faith-based systems.


No one with a lick of sense would call that credible.

Election systems where all parts aren't capable of being examined by the public (no proprietary algorithms), and where the data can't be accessed and the results re-created from it as many times as you want, deserve our contempt.
Posted by Gham
Member since Nov 2023
306 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:55 am to
Oliver stone is a loser who sucks cocks for money.
Posted by Juan Betanzos
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2005
3907 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:58 am to
Say what you want -- Stone is liberal --- but he's also ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT --- either R or D. If he thinks the Dems worked with the RINO's to manipulate the 2020, he'll be upset.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
14461 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 1:01 pm to
Stones closing comments summed it up:
STONE: -- Joe [Biden] got so many got so many votes. You know, that was what was shocking, that he did so well compared to what he was expected to do --

MAHER: Right.

STONE: -- because we believed all the East Coast media --

No one believes that Biden got millions more votes than the extremely popular Obama.
The obvious reason, the elephant in the room, is the millions of non-legitimate mail-in ballots.
And I can't speak for the other battleground states but in Georgia I know that Rothenberger changed the voting rules in violation of the U.S. Constitution which clearly states that all changes in voting laws must be approved by the state legislature.
Texas raised this very issue in a suit and was shot down as having no standing by the Supreme Court which is total manure.
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