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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 4/15/26 at 10:15 am to
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 10:15 am to
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Europe draws up plans for a new NATO without US


NATO, beyond containing the USSR, has kept EU countries from going to war with each other as they have so often done.

There is no reason not to reduce American presence there. It costs a lot and has little in the way of necessity.
Posted by wdhalgren
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 10:16 am to
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Europe draws up plans for a new NATO without US


Three years ago, the Europeans (and some in this country) were trying to convince everyone that Russia would continue into Europe after they were done with Ukraine. But oddly enough, Europe didn't start an immediate massive domestic military buildup to repel the Russian threat. If I thought my country was going to be invaded, I'd be building up the military at an emergency rate, but they didn't. Instead, they played proxy war and wouldn't even commit troops to that. They made plans, had meetings, issued strong statements about their intent, but three years later their militaries are still woefully inadequate to provide for their own defense without the US. Offensively, they have even less capacity.

I can only think of two obvious reasons for that behavior. Either they never believed Russia would invade Europe, or they have practically no psychological capacity to rebuild their militaries and defend themselves.
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 10:20 am to
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That is laughable. Without the US, I would bet that 1000 randomly picked rednecks from the south could defeat 1000 of their soldiers. They probably dont have enough rifles to give each of their solders one. And certainly not 5-6 magazines. The EU has spent the last 20 years spending on social programs and nothing on defense. They depended on the US for that. Hopefully those days are numbered.


Like I said. It’s Europe. With the exception of Poland, Finland, and maybe Romania they will do nothing they will do nothing but hold meetings and take pictures.
This post was edited on 4/15/26 at 10:26 am
Posted by Ailsa
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 10:46 am to
Part of this message has already been posted but listen to what Trump says about Greenland and NATO...
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Posted by Ailsa
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 11:03 am to
Posted by Ailsa
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 11:04 am to
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 11:05 am to
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Either they never believed Russia would invade Europe, or they have practically no psychological capacity to rebuild their militaries and defend themselves.

For the first part they knew the US would be there to deter Russia. But the 2nd part is true also. With some exceptions, they’ve become complacent. They don’t care for that anymore
Posted by Ailsa
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 11:13 am to
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 11:17 am to
quote:

Three years ago, the Europeans (and some in this country) were trying to convince everyone that Russia would continue into Europe after they were done with Ukraine. But oddly enough, Europe didn't start an immediate massive domestic military buildup to repel the Russian threat. If I thought my country was going to be invaded, I'd be building up the military at an emergency rate, but they didn't. Instead, they played proxy war and wouldn't even commit troops to that. They made plans, had meetings, issued strong statements about their intent, but three years later their militaries are still woefully inadequate to provide for their own defense without the US. Offensively, they have even less capacity.


Good comment. let's talk about it.
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 11:21 am to
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 11:25 am to
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IRGC-linked paramilitary enforcers are terrorizing and extorting small businesses across Iran

A group known as “Sons of Haider” is forcing shopkeepers to hand over food and basic supplies for free, claiming it is “support for the mujahideen” and regime-backed activities.

Refuse, and they threaten to shut down your business, confiscate your assets, and label you a traitor to the revolution.

These tactics mirror the same coercion and forced “contributions” used by ISIS, where civilians and small businesses are pressured into handing over goods under ideological pretexts.

One dairy farmer in Iran was forced to hand over 100 liters of milk he had just collected, wiping out his entire day’s income and leaving his family without support.

Extortion and embezzlement are hallmarks of the regime, but its lack of political leadership and growing internal rifts are making these forces even more chaotic and predatory, digging deeper into the lives of ordinary people.

This is systematic, organized extortion targeting Iranians trying to survive under mounting economic pressure.
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 11:28 am to
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New players enter the chat? #FreeIran?
--- Operation EPIC FURY ---

After the disappointment of what seemed to have been an aborted B-52 move across the Atlantic yesterday, we appear to have activity again! Will we see another B-52 heading to RAF Fairford?

B-52H "?" 60-0042 #AE5888 (nickname TBC)
KC-135R "PICO13" 58-0051 #AE0382 (from KBGR)

@MATA_osint
@AUX_OSINT
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 11:36 am to
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 11:37 am to
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The Red Sea Power Shift: Somaliland vs. Iran

As Iran and Houthi forces threaten a maritime blockade of the Bab al-Mandab Strait, the U.S. is pivoting to Somaliland. A high-level U.S. AFRICOM delegation just met with Somaliland’s military leadership to discuss a strategic partnership. By offering its territory for U.S. and Israeli operations, Somaliland aims to become the primary counterweight to Iranian influence in the Red Sea, potentially trading military access for international recognition.
This post was edited on 4/15/26 at 11:38 am
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 11:54 am to
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The Islamic Republic is entering an economic death spiral it cannot withstand.

The warning signs are clear and accelerating:

?? The Central Bank warns recovery could take up to 12 years, with inflation potentially reaching 180% and unemployment rising by another two million
?? Oil, which funds a large share of the budget, is under severe strain due to disruptions, reduced output, and storage limits that risk forcing shutdowns
?? The United States has imposed a naval blockade through the Strait of Hormuz, targeting Iran’s ability to export roughly 1.7–2 million barrels of oil per day, choking off its main source of hard currency
?? Prolonged internet blackouts are draining tens of millions of dollars daily, crippling businesses, banking, and trade across the country
?? Shortages are now hitting basic necessities, with bread lines forming as flour supplies tighten, a critical warning sign in a heavily subsidized food system
?? War damage has hit key sectors, including steel, pharmaceutical, and petrochemical industries, along with broader infrastructure and transport networks
?? The regime continues to pour hundreds of millions to billions into foreign proxies and militias, draining resources that are urgently needed at home
?? These pressures are converging into a single cascade of inflation, shortages, unemployment, and collapsing revenue

This is not a temporary disruption but a systemic breakdown unfolding in real time.

President Trump understands that the regime cannot sustain this level of economic pressure. The strategy is to intensify that pressure, accelerating internal strain to a point where the system can no longer function or maintain control.

History shows regimes collapse when they can no longer pay, feed, or govern.

The Islamic Republic is being pushed toward that exact breaking point.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 11:55 am to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 11:56 am to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 11:56 am to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 11:57 am to
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During the first 48 hours of the U.S. blockade on ships entering and exiting Iranian ports, no vessels have made it past U.S. forces. Additionally, 9 vessels have complied with direction from U.S. forces to turn around and return toward an Iranian port or coastal area.
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 11:58 am to
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