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Posted on 3/14/26 at 10:32 am to
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 10:32 am to
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For the record.

Critics who argue that President Trump misjudged Iran or acted impulsively fail to grasp the strategic coherence underpinning recent U.S. operations. Many of these same commentators, until hours ago, could not have pointed to Kharg Island on a map, yet it is the core through which the Iranian regime’s economy breathes. Nearly 90% of Tehran’s crude exports run through Kharg, a terminal capable of handling roughly seven million barrels a day. Disrupting or seizing control of this node strikes at the regime’s primary revenue artery without requiring a ground war or full-scale confrontation.

The precision of the U.S. campaign underscores this logic. American strikes have degraded Iran’s military infrastructure while sparing oil export sites, signalling a strategy not of regime change but of coercive stabilization. The objective is clear: reopen the Strait of Hormuz, restore safe Gulf exports, and pressure Iran toward internal reform rather than external collapse. Securing transit routes and establishing U.S.-supervised flows from Iranian facilities like Kharg would not only stabilize global supply but also weaken China’s energy leverage across Eurasia.

In that sense, what critics call “reckless escalation” may instead be a calculated rebalancing of power using economic geography, not ideology, as the primary instrument of statecraft. The question is not whether Washington has a plan, but whether its detractors have the strategic literacy to recognize one.
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 10:33 am to
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 10:35 am to
Posted by omegaman66
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 10:36 am to
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Armin Assadi: "If you're praying to be bombed, that's not hope — that's desperation!"


They aren't praying to be bombed. They are praying that Trump continues to bomb their enemy.
Posted by wfallstiger
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 10:37 am to
Daniel 10: 13, 20-21
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 10:41 am to
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Although I have studied wars and the conduct of modern conflict almost continuously for quite many years, the sudden re-emergence of Kharg Island as a potential military target has brought back vivid memories of the long periods I spent studying (and traveling to) that island—its strategic significance, its immense oil wealth, and its strengths and vulnerabilities. I first examined Kharg in depth while writing about the history of Iran-Iraq War and then my MA dissertation in War Studies (supervised by Prof Philip Sabin) at KCL’s @warstudies (2006), where I analyzed Iraq’s campaign to destroy the island during that war. Later, the subject became central again during my PhD research (supervised by Prof Oliver Bast) at the Uni of Manchester’s @uomhums (2010), where I continued examining the strategic role and adaptability of Iran’s energy infrastructures as strategic chokepoints in modern warfare. Kharg is not just another piece of geography in the Persian Gulf; it is the primary gateway for Iranian oil exports and therefore one of the country’s most important economic centers of gravity. During the 1980-88 war Iraq attempted hundreds of strikes against the island and the tankers approaching it in the hope of bankrupting Iran and forcing Tehran to end the war. The campaign caused damage and much disruption but ultimately failed because Iran adapted—repairing facilities quickly, shifting exports through shuttle tankers, and improvising alternative loading points. That experience demonstrated both the power and the limits of what might be called energy-infrastructure warfare.

Today the strategic logic surrounding Kharg has resurfaced almost unchanged, but under far riskier technological conditions. The recent U.S. strikes against military installations on the island—while deliberately avoiding the oil infrastructure—signal a calibrated warning: if the Islamic regime continues interfering with freedom of navigation in the Strait of Hormuz, the next targets could include the island’s oil export system itself. Kharg still handles the overwhelming majority of Iran’s crude exports, making it a uniquely powerful economic pressure point despite Tehran’s attempts to build resilience by expanding storage capacity elsewhere and developing alternative outlets such as SPMs and the Jask terminal on the Gulf of Oman, which has only recently begun loading tankers again at relatively modest levels. Destroying or disabling Kharg could therefore remove most Iranian oil exports from the market overnight and deprive the Iranian state of critical revenue (after it sells its existing 200 mb on floating storage), but such an attack would also carry significant risks. The island contains enormous oil storage tanks, pipelines, and loading facilities built over decades, and a large-scale strike on these structures—unless extremely selective and surgical—could ignite massive fires or trigger an environmental disaster in the Persian Gulf. The regime in Iran now faces a stark strategic choice: de-escalate and allow shipping through Hormuz to resume unhindered, or continue confronting maritime traffic and risk the destruction of its most important energy lifeline, this time at the hands of the most powerful military power in the world.

@POTUS
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 10:44 am to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 11:05 am to
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Shanaka Anslem Perera

I stopped using him as a source since his analysis of the signal appears to be AI generated & it’s usually off the mark

Still an interesting perspective tho
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 11:09 am to
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 11:12 am to
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As I said days ago. The European Navies are too weak and we just don’t have enough destroyers out of maintenance.

The only way @SecScottBessent’s “International Naval Coalition” will work is if we recruit Japan and South Korea

But that would leave a huge imbalance between our allies and China.

Could maybe work if China sends warships too. China might not even have to participate directly. They just need to be out of East Asia temporarily so a relative balance is maintained.

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Internationalize the Reopening of Hormuz!

Good news from President Trump today, and expected given the importance to many of America’ allies of petroleum flows thru the Straits of Hormuz.

"Hopefully China, France, Japan, South Korea, the UK, and others, that are affected by this artificial constraint, will send Ships to the area so that the Hormuz Strait will no longer be a threat by a Nation that has been totally decapitated," President Trump added.

Not sure about China being included given their behavior recently and track record in the Red Sea and counter piracy operations. France is already sending a flotilla and hopefully soon Japan sends mine sweepers. History is repeating from the early 90s…

Japan has over the years loosened interpretations of its pacifist constitution, such that if Iran’s threat to its energy deemed a national danger it can act - sending minesweepers especially as the direct threat from Iran’s military eliminated becomes more politically viable. Memories still linger of Japan’s tardy response in Gulf War One.
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 11:23 am to
I think Trump adding Chyna was tactical and political.

If they don’t send any then it shows them as weak and unable to exert any power forward.

If they do it helps keep balance in Asia so others can send ships. And would need to work with USA to a degree since we are in charge of the war efforts.

He puts them in a tough spot by adding them.
Posted by Figgy
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 11:27 am to
NHK (Japan) has picked up on an Axios story that Putin has offered to house the enriched uranium:

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A US news website has reported that US President Donald Trump turned down an offer from Russian President Vladimir Putin to move Iran's enriched uranium to Russia. It said the proposal was part of a deal to end the US-Israeli military operation against Iran. Axios published the story on Friday, citing sources who said Putin made the proposal in phone talks on Monday with Trump. The report said Russia made a similar offer in the weeks before the United States and Israel began air strikes on Iran. The Trump administration has said stopping Iran from possessing nuclear weapons is a core mission of the ongoing military operation. Media reports say the administration may be weighing sending forces to seize Iran's enriched uranium. Asked about the possibility in a Fox News Radio interview aired on Friday, Trump said: "We're not focused on that. But at some point we might be." Also on the day, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth told reporters that the US retains options "across the spectrum" to ensure Iran never possesses nuclear weapons.

NHK
Posted by cajunandy
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 11:27 am to
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This is exactly what we did in Syria for that regime change.


That's not what "we" did. It's what your heroes Barry Obama and Hillary Clinton did. It is plan stupid to even think that Trump is going to do what those two did.
Posted by omegaman66
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 11:32 am to
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It is unclear why we bombed Iran"


quote]“I think people have an idea [about why we bombed Iran"[/quote]

I view it like this.
Enemy has guns.
Enemy has planes.
Enemy has ships.

Did we go in because of the guns? Are was it the planes? Are was it the ships?

Why can't they understand that the answer is all of the above.

Who gives a shite if Iran was two weeks or two years away from building a nuke? What difference does it make. They want you dead. Why sit on our hands and continue to allow them to kill Americans like they have been doing for decades? Why let them get intercontinental ballistic missiles?

End them now while the cost in lives is small.
Posted by VooDude
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 11:35 am to
Before you know it Trump’s going to send in ground troops. I still support the war. It needed to be done sooner than later and not kick the can down the road. Wish we had done this with the USSR before they developed nukes and spread them to China.

But it’s all very hard to watch with the sacrificial economic pressure. Living in between the pandemic and now this is brutal with inflation. I feel so poor despite having a good salary on paper.
Posted by Ailsa
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 11:41 am to
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Daniel 10: 13, 20-21


I was thinking about that yesterday...the angels are sent to intervene from time to time.
Posted by omegaman66
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 11:47 am to
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I think Trump adding Chyna was tactical and political.

If they don’t send any then it shows them as weak and unable to exert any power forward.

If they do it helps keep balance in Asia so others can send ships. And would need to work with USA to a degree since we are in charge of the war efforts.

He puts them in a tough spot by adding them.


I think the main point was not to get them to do anything like sending ships. Instead it was to say. We have YOU by the balls. We have oil and you no longer do because we took your supply (iran and ven) away. Play nice because we have the ability to slow your economy to nothing.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 11:56 am to
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UPDATE: Two senior Iranian intelligence officers were eliminated in an Israeli airstrike in Tehran on Friday, according to the IDF.

The strike targeted a facility of the intelligence directorate of the Khatam-al Anbiya Central Headquarters, Iran’s military emergency command.

Those killed were Abdollah Jalali-Nasab and Amir Shariat, recently appointed acting heads of the unit after their predecessor was eliminated in earlier strikes.

“The two were senior intelligence commanders and were key figures in the Iranian intelligence community. In addition, the two were close to the top leadership of the Iranian terror regime,” the IDF says.

The revolving door at Iran’s intelligence command keeps spinning.

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Posted on 3/14/26 at 11:58 am to
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 11:59 am to
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