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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 8/4/26 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
58185 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 1:28 pm to
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The outcome of this war will be

1. US boss of the western hemisphere
2. Russia abd China bosses of the eastern hemisphere
3. Iran boss of the middle east. Israel aint getting the promotion

Nope. First, Russia will be boss of nothing. They are a very weak country and they have to face the consequences of that weakness. Russia will soon have to choose between being the little buddy of China or America. If we give them half a chance they will choose America because china is the much bigger threat to them.

Second, Iran is not going to be the boss of the Middle East. That is an absurd outcome. They are a Shiite Muslim country and the ME is mostly Sunni. Almost the entire ME would rise against that. And neither America nor Europe would allow that.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
41070 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 1:40 pm to
so same place we were the last 50 times.
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2456 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 1:42 pm to
So if this is accurate we went from demanding free navigation through the strait (which was the case before all this started) to allowing Iran to charge a 5% fee on all ships ,except Russia and China cause of course they wouldn't have to pay. Is this us winning?
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
4638 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 1:55 pm to
The White House is in this state of paralysis because the conditions of ending the war are politically unbearable, but the conditions of continuing the war are economically unbearable. Trump is in a trap of his own making, and we are stuck there with him. He should have kept his campaign promises.
Posted by Raging Tiger
Teedy Town
Member since Jun 2023
1618 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 2:21 pm to
I’d argue we wouldn’t be in this position if we struck them as hard as possible early on.

Strike first, strike hard? Something like that
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
12025 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
41070 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 2:26 pm to
It's official once again. The cycle of "they are ready to make a deal," then Tehran comes back with transit fees (amount other red lines), we reject and they shoot stuff at us. On and on we go.
This post was edited on 8/4/26 at 2:27 pm
Posted by Raging Tiger
Teedy Town
Member since Jun 2023
1618 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 2:30 pm to
This time the market can handle it if they go back.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
12025 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 2:30 pm to
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Iran was likely behind a wave of recent cyberattacks on municipal water systems across the US, NBC News reported on Tuesday, citing two people familiar with the incidents.

“Malicious cyber actors” have attacked municipal water systems in at least seven states, according to the FBI. Officials in metropolitan Atlanta said they are investigating “unauthorized cyber activity” that may have disrupted water operations.
Posted by chalupa
Member since Jan 2011
6987 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 2:31 pm to
There is only one way to fix Iran. You end the IRGC regime for good. I don’t know how you do it, but it might be possible without boots on the ground. Israel and US in the air and Mossad on the ground for intel. Figure out a way to arm the uprising.

Real regime change is the only way Trump comes out of this looking good. This tit for tat bullshite and deal negotiations is so dumb.

Go back to week 1. Start dropping bombs on IRGC leadership and don’t let up until they’re all gone or surrender. And for fricks sake, don’t announce it on Twitter and truth social.
This post was edited on 8/4/26 at 2:33 pm
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
4638 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

Start dropping bombs on IRGC leadership and don’t let up until they’re all gone or surrender.
We already tried it dude. We can’t.
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2456 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 2:53 pm to
It's too late to take out IRGC leadership by bombing. They are hiding and hiding deep where we can't touch them. The thing to do now is to start going after power plants, infrastructure, etc. to make life so miserable for them they have to give in. It seems though we don't actually have the stomach to do something like that.
Posted by Raging Tiger
Teedy Town
Member since Jun 2023
1618 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 3:07 pm to
I don’t understand you. A week ago you were saying we just need to wash our hands of this and now you’re we need to bomb them.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
26455 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 3:22 pm to
You can leave the bridges, but it is time to take out transmission lines. That will be the quickest repair and cheapest to take out. Make Iran look like North Korea at night.

Bridge rebuilds are painful, really just need to take away electricity and we know where all the power plants are.

Sucks for the good people there, but for the greater good, they will have to suffer.
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
18349 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 3:38 pm to
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Second, Iran is not going to be the boss of the Middle East. That is an absurd outcome. They are a Shiite Muslim country and the ME is mostly Sunni. Almost the entire ME would rise against that. And neither America nor Europe would allow that.


I’m sure Iran is shaking right now. All those ME countries + US + Europe can’t even take Hormuz.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
11694 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 3:46 pm to
Isreal is doing a fine job of clearing the Hamas leadership with assinations running about 3 a week in Gaza. Need to turn them loose on the IRGC leadership
Posted by Usmc
Member since Oct 2024
610 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 3:56 pm to
The us alone could easiley take the straight. Our political leaders dont have the will to do it.
Clap your cheeks all you want.
Won't change the fact its the political class choking out the military on a leash for no other reason than what equates to "white guilt" over nuking Japan.
Its been the same un every conflict since ww11 and its not even close.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
58185 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 4:03 pm to
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I’m sure Iran is shaking right now. All those ME countries + US + Europe can’t even take Hormuz.

I don’t think they’re “shaking”, but that’s a far cry from “controlling the middle east”.
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
4638 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 4:03 pm to
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The us alone could easiley take the straight.
This is the energy you guys are giving off when you say we could easily impose our will on Iran militarily if we just wanted to bad enough. Those days are over. Our military is in shambles and our country is broke.
Posted by Usmc
Member since Oct 2024
610 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 4:10 pm to
But it isn't. If the politicians let us do our jobs. Its not a hard fix. Betas like you, those in congress, and the media frown upon it, but its an easy job. One we are more than willing to accomplish.

You and your ilk are satisfied with less than half measures and needless casualties. Its fn disgusting
This post was edited on 8/4/26 at 4:11 pm
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