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re: Official Pillow Guy Symposium: only flat-earthers remain excited

Posted on 8/12/21 at 11:45 am to
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 11:45 am to
He did. If it had been a WaPo reporter, I'd probably put more credence into the allegation, but that's not going to stop the Gotcha brigade.
Posted by Jack Carter
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 11:46 am to
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That, or the crack head con artist is the one using fake data.


How can we get the real data?
Posted by hubertcumberdale
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 11:46 am to
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Posted by hnds2th
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 11:56 am to
This thread is off the rails.

The Arizona panel was excellent and refuted everything I have read in the local papers and from Maricopa County board of elections.

Alan Dershowitz and other constitutional lawyers are joining Mike in his defense against Dominion. He made the point that Dominion will have to provide servers in discovery.

The panel on now just provided proof of hacking.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 11:59 am to
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Are the wheels falling off?



this is the cool part actually. they're explaining the basics of cyber security to people to scare people. just go to cve man, look at all those vulnerabilities that are out there possible.

everythings vulnerable, worlds gonna end, update your viruses, don't connect anything to internet. basically the only safe way to computer is to not plug it.

they did run a really neat mock election to illustrate vulnerabilities and data collection though so this is neat. i expect the tech guys to provide some cool details since they hacked the network within 10 minutes.
Posted by OldManRiver
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 11:59 am to
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The panel on now just provided proof of hacking.


I'll give Mike and all of the similar guys credit, they know exactly how to spread enough clutter and bs to convince people of what they want to be convinced of
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:00 pm to
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The panel on now just provided proof of hacking.



of their own network in a demo at the conference. this has nothing to do with an actual election.
Posted by TheBoo
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:00 pm to
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The panel on now just provided proof of hacking.

One thing that's getting conflated in this thread, since there's a clear line between sides here now, is the difference between proving the possibility of, and proving that it happened during the election.

I'm hoping at some point they show the actual data that they said they had that showed the hackers accessing the machines during the election, and proof of votes being switched during and after the election. So far they've only provided demonstrations and evidence that it's possible, not proof that the event occurred. I'm still holding out hope but this isn't going to cut it.
Posted by ShinerHorns
El Paso
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:02 pm to
Bluetooth on an election machine. Absolute clown world folks.
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:02 pm to
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i expect the tech guys to provide some cool details since they hacked the network within 10 minutes.

The girl on stage seemed shocked that someone changed her admin password

What she left out, or maybe doesn't actually know, is that virtually every router sold for home/personal use has a standard username and password as a starting point

So if she just plugged in some $50 Netgear router in the room, it would take anybody 2 minutes to hit it, type in Admin and Password (yes, those are the defaults for most Netgear), and voila, you've "hacked" the network
This post was edited on 8/12/21 at 12:03 pm
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:03 pm to
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What she left out, or maybe doesn't actually know, is that virtually every router sold for home/personal use has a standard username and password as a starting point


Want to know how someone would come to believe you didn't watch her presentation from yesterday?
Posted by OldManRiver
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:04 pm to
Enlighten me, what did I miss?
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:04 pm to
"This is Dangerous to our Democracy!!!" reeeeeeee



Have you all heard that nonsense from anyone?
Posted by GeauxGutsy
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:04 pm to
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You are totally lost if you think this has had no impact.


I hope you’re right, but I just don’t think you are.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:08 pm to
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The girl on stage seemed shocked that someone changed her admin password

What she left out, or maybe doesn't actually know, is that virtually every router sold for home/personal use has a standard username and password as a starting point

So if she just plugged in some $50 Netgear router in the room, it would take anybody 2 minutes to hit it, type in Admin and Password (yes, those are the defaults for most Netgear), and voila, you've "hacked" the network


this is the most logical answer
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:09 pm to
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Bluetooth on an election machine.


That in and of itself is really not that interesting.
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:15 pm to
Thanks for the nightmare.

I want this thing to work out, I want fraud to be proven, but a lot of this is chasing red herrings.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:15 pm to
She specifically talked about taking the academic path via multiple engineering degrees with 20+ years of experience over the course of her IT auditing career... but you're alleging she's too dumb to know that a Netgear router has a common default password.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:15 pm to
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showed is that if you have a computer on the same network as the election management computer, AND you have both admin access AND the SQL database passwords, you can execute a SQL command to modify the data


Here's the problem with that: these Dominion systems have internal 4G modems (meaning they don't need to be on the LAN to connect to them) and we know from the Messa drive there was an executed .bat (at least on that machine) which shut down the SQL service, injected a registry key to turn off encryption and security (ie: the "dehardening" discussion), then turned it back on.
This post was edited on 8/12/21 at 12:19 pm
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