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Obama's legacy: He sparked hope -- and got blindsided

Posted on 3/9/18 at 9:43 am
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 9:43 am
CNN Article Assessing Obama's Presidency

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To begin, any assessment of President Obama has to reckon with the extraordinary election that resulted in the election of Donald Trump as his successor, a President who has seemed determined to erase Obama's legacy. Obama's failure to see it coming -- in this he was not alone -- is one of the biggest question marks over his White House years.


Your first thing to do in Obama's assessment is to reckon Trump's election?


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What Obama could never accept about American politics was just how ugly it had become. In many ways, this always had been the President's greatest political weakness. His confidence in our democracy prevented him from doing more to stand firm against the destructive forces that were shaping our country during his two terms in office.


The man lived off of being ugly and using identity politics as his platform to his presidency. It's easy to erase a "Legacy" built upon lies, deceit, and dictatorship like executive orders. His biggest legacy was to destroy health care.

Liberal historians rewriting history is nothing new and was to be expected involving Obama.
This post was edited on 3/9/18 at 10:31 am
Posted by cokebottleag
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 9:46 am to
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What Obama could never accept about American politics was just how ugly it had become. In many ways, this always had been the President's greatest political weakness. His confidence in our democracy prevented him from doing more to stand firm against the destructive forces that were shaping our country during his two terms in office.


Confidence in democracy means weaponizing the IRS, FBI, and DOJ against your political enemies.


Someone should write an Obama biography titled "Obama: The pre-Trump president"
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 9:47 am to
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The man lived off of being ugly and using identity politics as his platform to his presidency.


Posted by Tiger Lake
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 9:48 am to
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The man lived off of being ugly and using identity politics as his platform to his presidency. It's easy to erase a "Legacy" built upon lies, deceit, and dictatorship like executive orders. His biggest legacy was to destroy health care.



TRUTH!
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 9:51 am to
This is why it’s difficult to take the press seriously. They are praising a man who spied on the press and charges them as enemy combatants yet like the battered wife they keep coming back with praise
This post was edited on 3/9/18 at 9:53 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42581 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 9:53 am to
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What Obama could never accept about American politics was just how ugly it had become. I


This should have been written about the two Bushes. HW was too much of a gentleman to get down to the dirty level of the Clinton/DEM corruption/smear/lie machine. I think he just said 'f it.'

W was demeaned like no other president prior to Trump.

DEMs have lived on division, smear, lying, October Surprises for decades.

Obama had the most lenient press of any POTUS in history - they simply would not even consider anything that did not show him as god-like. Still don't.

Trump has suffered the ultimate smear job from DEMs and the media. It is not even debatable.

Obama is a wet snowflake, still being worshiped by the cult media.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 9:56 am to
he also worked to teach a generation of young dipshits that "the state holds supremacy over the individual" and taught those same dipshits to accuse believers in freedom of "fascism"

but it's really not funny. But anyway
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 10:00 am to
Maybe if Obama had been better at his job, his "legacy" wouldn't be so easily undone.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24585 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 10:01 am to
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W was demeaned like no other president prior to Trump.


You are out of your mind if you think obama wasn’t put on blast 24/7 by every conservative outlet. This board still has multiple threads on the front page today melting about him. Just because you agreed with it doesn’t take away it happening, we tend to be more lenient towards criticism we agree with.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 10:04 am to
That definitely happened, but conservative A outlets are far outnumbered by liberal-leaning ones
Posted by Mac
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 10:06 am to
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What Obama could never accept about American politics was just how ugly it had become.

He came up in Chicago politics. And the "ugliness" of politics increased ten fold during his presidency, but I'm sure that isn't his fault.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31862 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 10:06 am to
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think obama wasn’t put on blast 24/7 by every conservative outle


Oh yes the one conservative outlet put him on blast. Definitely comparable
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 10:06 am to
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Obama's legacy:

Whitey did it
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
24987 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 10:07 am to
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You are out of your mind if you think obama wasn’t put on blast 24/7 by every conservative outlet. This board still has multiple threads on the front page today melting about him. Just because you agreed with it doesn’t take away it happening, we tend to be more lenient towards criticism we agree with.



And for every one "conservative" media outlet, there are about 30 liberal ones. If you don't think that's a critical mass for a conservative President or other politician to overcome, you're deluding yourself. The disparity cannot be ignored.

Obama, like most Dems, had the mainstream media eating out of the palm of his hands. That same mainstream media will ignore more pressing issues of actual national security to talk about what Trump tweets, Melania being "trapped" in her marriage, two scoops of ice cream, non-existent Trump-Russia collusion.

Is there any wonder why the general media has lower approval ratings than congress?
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 10:07 am to
Tried to transform Amerika.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 10:07 am to
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You are out of your mind if you think obama wasn’t put on blast 24/7 by every conservative outlet.
Name them. It shouldn't take long.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21874 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 10:11 am to
Obama's presidency was eerily foretold in a national review article that is worth the read regardless of your political persuasion.

Article

An excerpt...

... Has any of that brought about the change Obama spoke of back in 1985? Not in any large sense. But if Obama doesn’t have much to show for his years as an organizer, it’s fair to say that many of the people he touched revere him deeply. Remember what Loretta Augustine-Herron said: Obama had such a powerful presence that he made her believe he could do the job, even though there was little in his résumé to suggest he could. Does that sound familiar to anyone who has watched the Obama campaign? When hope is the product, Obama can sell it with the best of them.

When he left for law school, Obama wondered what he had accomplished as an organizer. He certainly had some achievements, but he did not — perhaps could not — concede that there might be something wrong with his approach to Chicago’s problems. Instead of questioning his own premises, he concluded that he simply needed more power to get the job done. So he made plans to run for political office. And in each successive office, he has concluded that he did not have enough power to get the job done, so now he is running for the most powerful office in the land.



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And what if he gets it? He’ll be the biggest, strongest organizer in the world. He’ll dazzle the country with his message of hope and possibility. But we shouldn’t expect much to actually get done.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 10:11 am to
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What Obama could never accept about American politics was just how ugly it had become


My bet is that the first draft of this article used the word 'racist' and then they downshifted to 'ugly.'
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20377 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 10:12 am to
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His confidence in our democracy prevented him from doing more to stand firm against the destructive forces that were shaping our country during his two terms in office.


Laughable statement.

He is on record as saying Bush increase of national debt was treason. Yet Obama himself increased the national debt much more than Bush.

He broke the law with DACA. DACA was unconstitutional. Now we have a mess.

Obama instructed Federal agencies not to enforce immigration laws. The president does not and NEVER has had this power.

Obama.. through Obamacare... forced people to pay a penalty for not having insurance. The Supreme Court had to classify this penalty as a "tax" so that it would be legal.

Obama... more executive orders by a president in our history.

Obama... FBI and DOJ climbed to greatest heights of impropriety and political collusion in the history of our nation.

It just goes on and on and on with this guy. He was undoubtedly the biggest destructive force to hold a high office in U.S. history.

Obama's actions themselves tell you how he felt about U.S. democracy. He didn't like it when it didn't go his way and would do anything required at that point to get it his way.

As usual CNN has it all fricked up.
This post was edited on 3/9/18 at 10:17 am
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 3/9/18 at 10:12 am to
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His confidence in our democracy prevented him from doing more to stand firm against the destructive forces that were shaping our country during his two terms in office.

Uhhhhh....I'd say his contempt for our democracy was the problem, not his confidence
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