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re: Obama: Not everyone who is disturbed by migration can be branded racist

Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:01 am to
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29180 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:01 am to
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Not a real thing. Propaganda meme.


Um... it’s definitely a thing. You’re not intelligent.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:02 am to
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Urging those in the crowd to view those who expressed opposition to immigration with empathy, Obama said: "We can't label everyone who is disturbed by migration as racist.

I mean, he's right but this is kinda like the dude who KNOWINGLY yelled fire in the crowded theater saying, "sorry, my bad after the 50th person is trampled to death.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425036 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 12:08 pm to


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Richard Spencer, poster boy of the alt-right, seen here endorsing Bernie's racist and xenophobic take on open borders. Yikes.

Parroting right-wing talking points about scary foreigners coming in and "taking our jobs" or using up all our benefits (what benefits? American citizens don't get free college, universal healthcare, a job guarantee, etc) is a real bad look, and not something anyone on the left should be making excuses for.


the communists are mad at Bernie now, too
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 12:21 pm to
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Um... it’s definitely a thing.


Nah, it's not a thing. It's literally leftist propaganda.

quote:

You’re not intelligent


Lolmkay
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 12:28 pm to
Trump should seize this opportunity right now to change immigration laws:

1) no work visas without proof of health insurance--employers bringing immigrants into the country for work should be required to produce such a document

2) no eligibility for welfare

3) for permanent status---learn the language

If these things are done there should be no limit on visas. Lose your job and insurance your visa is expired.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29180 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 12:30 pm to
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If these things are done there should be no limit on visas.


False. There should always be a limit on visas to serve a variety of purposes. Investment in our own workforce is a good thing. Using cheaper imported labor with different living and accommodation standards just drags down current citizens standards of living.
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
6866 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 12:41 pm to
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yes he was liberal, but he was not nearly as bad/leftist as y'all made him out to be



His policies were not extreme left compared to the nuts that are blabbing away now, but he did a lot to divide this country into black and white with the cop shootings. He fuked race relations up in my book.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 12:47 pm to
Working people do not drag down any nation's standard of living.

It is foolish to discourage working, tax paying people. They add to an economy. They do not take away.

If not for our welfare we should have open borders. Since we are not going to end welfare we should limit it to citizens and require immigrants to have health insurance.

We want productive people.

They make the standard of living higher.
This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 12:49 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112883 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 12:49 pm to
We wouldn't need the working people if we didn't have a cradle to grave welfare state. We're also praying that the 2nd and third generations have the work ethics of their parents.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71736 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 12:52 pm to
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Trump's executive branch renewed 375k daca applications since January 2018. Very tough guy, MAGA!


DJT isn't opposed to DACA. He just wants a wall so we don't have the same debate in 15 years.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 12:52 pm to
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. Trump can only fail if "middle-of-the-road" idiots like you, Roger, HHTM, etc., who sway like the wind, continue to stab him in the back and fail to realize that Trump 1) has almost no help inside the beltway, and 2) that Trump is our only shot at taking our government back from the Deep State & other anti-American forces who want 5o destroy our country. 


Trump is not going to take down the deep state. You realize that the process of unwinding this level of corruption will exceed the timeframe of a two term president, correct?

You need to stop thinking this is a problem that be solved by a person or By an election. This is going to be a generational task, and there is nothing that will change that.



Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 12:53 pm to
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DJT isn't opposed to DACA. He just wants a wall so we don't have the same debate in 15 years


Good lord. DJT tried to end DACA, the courts told him no. This 4692d chess meme is getting old.


And don't worry, with millions of immigrants, we won't be having this conversation in English in 15 years.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 12:54 pm to
Maybe---our economy would certainly be larger if those on welfare would work.

IMHO, we have a much larger welfare problem than immigration problem and welfare should NOT be an incentive to immigrate.

Neither Congress or Trump seem ready to tackle the welfare state.
This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 12:56 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112883 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 12:56 pm to
But it is an incentive

I’d rather live in reality than pretend that a libertarian solution is feasible right now
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29127 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 12:57 pm to
If and when reparations happen, will Obama basically break even ?
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