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re: Obama DOJ Forced FBI To Delete 500,000 Fugitives From Background Check Database

Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:03 am to
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:03 am to
I take that back, then. My wuesgion is then why hasn’t that warrant been served? Why weren’t those individuals arrested?
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
24956 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:05 am to
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This makes sense, if you believe in the 6th amendment of the Constitution and the premise of our legal system that suspects are "innocent until proven guilty". Simply having a warrant does not make one guilty of a crime that should preclude one of their 2nd amendment rights.





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Question 11.b. - 12. Generally, 18 U.S.C. 922(g) prohibits the shipment, transportation, receipt, or possession in or affecting interstate commerce of a firearm by one who: has been convicted of a felony in any Federal, State or local court, or any other crime, punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year (this does not include State misdemeanors punishable by imprisonment of two years or less); is a fugitive from justice; is an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, or narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance; has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to a mental institution; has been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions; is subject to certain restraining orders; convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence under Federal, State or Tribal law; has renounced his/her U.S. citizenship; is an alien illegally in the United States or an alien admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa. Furthermore, section 922(n) prohibits the shipment, transportation, or receipt in or affecting interstate commerce of a firearm by one who is under indictment or information for a felony in any Federal, State or local court, or any other crime, punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year. An information is a formal accusation of a crime verified by a prosecutor.


Full NICS background check form

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133404 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:05 am to
This seems contradictory to the Dems usual stance.

They continually preach they want more extensive background checks and this article seems to indicate they reduced the data base for persons having their background checked.

Seems odd....
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52841 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:07 am to
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I take that back, then. My wuesgion is then why hasn’t that warrant been served? Why weren’t those individuals arrested?





Maybe "failure to appear" bench warrants on traffic violations, etc? Likely, very 'low priority' type things.

Or, given the efficiency of the court system...already appeared / had charges dropped or reduced and the clerk hasn't yet removed them from the system.

I have no idea.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52841 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:08 am to
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his seems contradictory to the Dems usual stance. They continually preach they want more extensive background checks and this article seems to indicate they reduced the data base for persons having their background checked. Seems odd....


It was just reconciliation between two definitions. The agreed upon one was to go along with the ATF definition.

Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:09 am to
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My wuesgion is then why hasn’t that warrant been served? Why weren’t those individuals arrested?



Because most warrants are not actively pursued. They will wait until you get popped for speeding, or come in to renew a license or tag. The system is ridiculous.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
31790 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:12 am to
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My wuesgion is then why hasn’t that warrant been served? Why weren’t those individuals arrested?



That's the real wuesgion.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
31790 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:13 am to
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Question 11.b. - 12. Generally, 18 U.S.C. 922(g) prohibits the shipment, transportation, receipt, or possession in or affecting interstate commerce of a firearm by one who: has been convicted of a felony in any Federal, State or local court, or any other crime, punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year (this does not include State misdemeanors punishable by imprisonment of two years or less); is a fugitive from justice


Thank you for your retort, answering my wuesgion.

It's been over a year since I've filled out one of those.
This post was edited on 3/15/18 at 11:15 am
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30216 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:17 am to
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The Justice Department under Barack Obama directed the FBI to drop more than 500,000 names of fugitives with outstanding arrest warrants from the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, acting FBI deputy director David Bowdich testified Wednesday.


And people bitch about other presidents.... Damn, we just keep on finding out all the stupid shite Obama did. Will it ever end?

Our president deleted info on criminal refugees. We're these all non-violent warrants? Highly highly doubtful. Some probably had murder warrants... Think Obama cared about little shite like that? Naw.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
25808 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:18 am to
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Any bets on who the first one will be? My money is on TigerinDC or Decatur.



If my time on PT has taught me anything, it's that the likely suspect will have a hog by its name
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30216 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:18 am to
And I wonder if that had got reported by the press during his presidency, would his followers be on board.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87200 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 3:05 pm to
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Annnddd yet another sleeper account.
This post was edited on 3/15/18 at 3:08 pm
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
29098 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 3:26 pm to
Russia or China should have the data.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33031 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 4:18 pm to
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You do realize that the article states that Obama's Legal Council defined fugitive, but the Trump administration implemented their decision? Just checking.

I don't think you read all that well
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FBI considered any person with an outstanding arrest warrant to be a fugitive. On the other hand, the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives defined a fugitive as someone who has an outstanding arrest warrant and has crossed state lines.

Obama dropped 500K people that were believed to have been in the same state as their arrest warrant. Says nothing about having a conviction

So if a guy shoots at someone in New Orleans, and flees to Shreveport, Obama dropped him from the background check database

Solid policy
Posted by TuDog
Boston
Member since Jun 2005
4421 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 4:21 pm to
Nothing's ever 'deleted'.
This post was edited on 3/15/18 at 4:23 pm
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