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re: NYT: Fox Stars Privately Expressed Disbelief About Election Fraud Claims. ‘Crazy Stuff.’

Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:12 am to
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:12 am to
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the belief a basement-dwelling potatobrain who couldn't fill 81 circles drawn on the ground at campaign stops actually garnered votes from 81 million living Americans.




And it always comes home doesnt it. You simply cant believe 81 million people voted against Trump can you? there is just no possible way it happened...

You love Trump, 81 million voters do not.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:16 am to
81 million pedophile lovers.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17135 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:24 am to
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Ballot Harvesting inner cities is unethical and is straight corruption of the ballot. Ineligible voters voting is fraud. That is what happened


Republicans need to out harvest the democrats. If that started the dems would call for changes, while they worked towards another (different) way to cheat.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157846 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:27 am to
I mean it is hard to fathom 81 million idiots would install an old racist lifetime politician with dementia.

But, according to you, there are indeed 81 million idiots that gleefully did just that.

This post was edited on 2/17/23 at 10:39 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138920 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:36 am to
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You simply cant believe 81 million people voted against Trump can you?
You mean I can't believe 12 million more people voted AGAINST a candidate than voted FOR Barack Obama at his zenith? Yeah, I tend not to believe stupid or unfounded stuff. I don't believe in an egg-laying Easter Bunny either. Just not my thing
Posted by bayou2
New Orleans, LA
Member since Feb 2007
3919 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:37 am to



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You do realize they never actually investigated whether there was election fraud, right?






... because the courts themselves own the ballots now and the courts themselves have not started investigations ...

and this is what that that Burnson case was trying to do, to get the issue of voter fraud before the the SCOTUS.

But the case was declined for review on Jan. 9.

But then Brunson was resubmitted to the SCOTUS on Jan. 23rd AND THEN
the SCOTUS scheduled a private conference for today.

AND

THIS

IS

WHY

ALL

MEDIA

IS

GOING

FULL

BOAR

TO

SHOVE

NO

VOTER

FRAUD

DOWN

YOUR

THROAT



just so you know

Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
8242 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:37 am to
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He drank the Kool Aid and has nowhere else to go but rabbit holes now. He’s just actually a smart guy so it looks a lot worse coming from him.


100%. I know that guy from around here, which is why I responded. He is actually quite intelligent which makes this whole deal so astonishing and fascinating. I’d say three quarters of said Kool Aid drinkers on here are like this 93and99 simpleton. Not an original or intelligent thought in them, they’re a waste of time unless you want a cheap laugh. But the smart ones who are clearly in some sort of trance that disallows them to see reality…it’s just wild to observe.

But back to NC, that guy was 100% on the “muh Dominion changed all the votes train!” There was no doubt, it wasn’t “well, that could have happened.” That was what happened, and that’s all there is to it. I’m not afraid of looking into any theory, but how in the hell can one talk themselves into 100% certainty on something like that? It’s black or white to them: either Biden won fair and square, or the most insane shite imaginable happened (involving tens of thousands of people working perfectly together with no leaks) to cheat Trump out of sure victory. I’ve said since day one that if someone wants to bitch about 2020, they’re doing themselves a great disservice blindly regurgitating the extreme conspiracies that lack evidence. The real gripe should be to what extent state legislatures violated their constitutions due to the “COVID emergency.” Now that is an idea worth exploring, but to so many of these people who like to flirt with fantasy, that idea isn’t sexy or crazy enough.
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
8242 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:39 am to
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I tend not to believe stupid or unfounded stuff


Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:40 am to
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You simply cant believe 81 million people voted


They didn't.

Now did Stacey abrams lackeys vote a few hundred times each against trump?

Sure I believe that.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:41 am to
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unfounded stuff.


It happened. Trump lost to Joe Biden.

81 million people voted against Trump.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:42 am to
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That’s what you garner from a piece written by a primary competitor and opponent of FNC. Doesn’t seem very credible to me.


The NYT is quoting the Dominion pleadings which in turn are quoting from phone/email records obtained from Fox in discovery. For example:



Dominion MSJ

ETA: The NYT isn't a Foxnews competitor. Foxnews competes with Newsmax and OAN.
This post was edited on 2/17/23 at 11:09 am
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
7316 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:45 am to
well when some of the evidence Sidney Powell sent to fox was an email forwarded from "a decapitated time traveler" then you lose all credibility.

They all talked a big game with 0 proof.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:46 am to
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It is unequivocally more bat shite crazy than that

no

it is not
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
8242 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:46 am to
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The NYT is quoting the Dominion pleadings which in turn are quoting from phone/email records obtained from Fox in discovery. For example:


I went though this on the last page. They don’t like to look at the source documents. They want a third party to interpret the information for them, and then they either attack or embrace the third party (but not the underlying information) accordingly.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47575 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:47 am to
American democrats acted like the voting system was as fragile as a Fabergé egg, under constant threat of Iranian trolls, Russian bot farms, disenfranchised voters, and *GASP!* Conservatives on Twitter. There were countless warnings, pearl clutching articles, election challenges, and hysteria like we've never seen before around election integrity when Trump beat Hillary in 2016.

By the time 2020 rolled around, none of those issues were remedied - and further - we created a pandemic MIV scheme that made harvesting and fraud easier than ever. But strangely, the Democrats have done a complete 180 on election integrity. "The most secure election ever!", they exclaimed. Hmmm. I wonder what changed.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:47 am to
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I went though this on the last page. They don’t like to look at the source documents.


Gateway Pundit relies on this type of "reader".
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:49 am to
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American democrats acted like the voting system was as fragile as a Fabergé egg, under constant threat of Iranian trolls, Russian bot farms, disenfranchised voters, and *GASP!* Conservatives on Twitter. There were countless warnings, pearl clutching articles, election challenges, and hysteria like we've never seen before around election integrity when Trump beat Hillary in 2016.



They weren't worried about the voting system they were worried about influence...voters being swayed by disinfo...which was a canard in its own right, but different nonetheless.
Posted by bayou2
New Orleans, LA
Member since Feb 2007
3919 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:54 am to


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It's not what you know, it's what you can prove. Trump didn't have the proof


... this is EXACTLY RIGHT ...

Swamp is gonna Swamp ...




Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47575 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:54 am to
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They weren't worried about the voting system they were worried about influence...voters being swayed by disinfo...which was a canard in its own right, but different nonetheless.


Clearly. They intentionally made the voting system less secure than its ever been. But any threat that potentially alters legitimate, intentioned votes is a threat worth eliminating.

And if they were so concerned about foreign influence, why didnt they address the influence rather than send their FBI dogs after Joe Schmo republicans on social media?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138920 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 11:03 am to
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Serious question- what exactly is wrong with you? Aside from the fact that you falsely use the word “discredited” like progs do
Wait, discredited is an inappropriate adjective for the NY TIMES? The paper that carried the "Hunter Laptop is Russian disinformation" BS? The paper that went wall-to-wall during the 2020 campaign with false claims Russians were paying Afghans a bounty for killing US troops? The hack rag that falsely claimed for months J6 protestors murdered Officer Brian Sicknick?

Sorry those stories were not only false at the time, the NYTimes KNEW they were false. Now, you trust the NYTimes to accurately report a story about FNC?

You have got to be joking!

Regarding the "filing" are you under the impression a filing is reflective of the complete story? You think Dominion will win a substantive award in an injury suit vs Fox News? Do you think they will win 1¢ vs FNC? Certainly if the filing is the final evidence, they might. But that ain't the way it works!

The OP article took a plaintiff's argument, then amplified it.

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Sometimes I think it would just be easier to have this willful ignorance
Stated by a believer in NYT veracity. Goodness that is audacious!
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