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NY Post Opinion column...The day I knew that journalism had died in America

Posted on 8/6/22 at 4:38 pm
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21323 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 4:38 pm
Written by former TIME staffer Kenneth R. Timmerman. Go figure, it centers on Bill Clinton. LINK
Posted by Retrograde
TX
Member since Jul 2014
2900 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 4:50 pm to
Good article, was probably dead before that.

Bet he still votes democrat too
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15068 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 4:54 pm to
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Written by former TIME staffer Kenneth R. Timmerman. Go figure, it centers on Bill Clinton. LINK


The world did change with Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17720 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 5:33 pm to
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The world did change with Bill and Hillary Clinton.
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Nah.

The left wing of the CIA simply beat the right wing of the CIA in the 1992 Presidential election.

This was how it came to pass that the Clintons were plucked from obscurity from a relatively small southern state to challenge the Bush Dynasty.

This is not to deny that there are true differences in political priorities between the two parties or to deny that they have do not have a political base of power in Washington with opposing agendas.

Yet ultimately, this UniParty® charade is a battle between the left and right wing of the Deep State for control of the Imperial Killing Machine.




The Crimes of Mena Arkansas

MENA, Ark. -- What do Bill Clinton and Oliver North have in common, along with the Arkansas State Police and the Central Intelligence Agency? All probably wish they had never heard of Mena.

President Clinton was asked at his Oct. 7 press conference about Mena, a small town and airport in the wilds of Western Arkansas. Sarah McClendon, a longtime Washington curmudgeon renowned for her off-the-wall questions, wove a query around the charge that a base in Mena was "set up by Oliver North and the CIA" in the 1980s and used to "bring in planeload after planeload of cocaine" for sale in the U.S., with the profits then used to buy weapons for the Contras. Was he told as Arkansas governor? she asked.

"No," the president replied, "they didn't tell me anything about it." The alleged events "were primarily a matter for federal jurisdiction. The state really had next to nothing to do with it. The local prosecutor did conduct an investigation based on what was in the jurisdiction of state law. The rest of it was under the jurisdiction of the United States Attorneys who were appointed successively by previous administrations. We had nothing -- zero -- to do with it."

It was Mr. Clinton's lengthiest remark on the murky affair since it surfaced nearly a decade ago, in the middle of his long tenure as governor of Arkansas. And while the president may be correct to suggest that Mena is an even bigger problem for previous Republican administrations, he was wrong on just about every other count. The state of Arkansas had plenty to do with Mena, and Mr. Clinton left many unanswered questions behind when he moved to Washington.

Anyone who thinks that Mena is not serious should speak to William Duncan, a former Internal Revenue Service investigator who, together with Arkansas State Police Investigator Russell Welch, has fought a bitter 10-year battle to bring the matter to light. They pinned their hopes on nine separate state and federal probes. All failed.

"The Mena investigations were never supposed to see the light of day," says Mr. Duncan, now an investigator with the Medicaid Fraud Division of the office of Arkansas Attorney General Winston Bryant. "Investigations were interfered with and covered up, and the justice system was subverted."

The mysteries of Mena, detailed on this page on June 29, center on the activities of a drug-smuggler-turned-informant named Adler Berriman "Barry" Seal. Mr. Seal began operating at Mena Intermountain Regional Airport in 1981. At the height of his career, according to Mr. Welch, Mr. Seal was importing as much as 1,000 pounds of cocaine a month.

By 1984, Mr. Seal was an informant for the Drug Enforcement Agency and flew at least one sting operation to Nicaragua for the CIA, a mission known to have drawn the attention of Mr. North. By 1986, Mr. Seal was dead, gunned down by Colombian hitmen in Baton Rouge, La. Eight months after Mr. Seal's murder, his cargo plane, which had been based at Mena, was shot down over Nicaragua with Eugene Hasenfus and a load of Contra supplies aboard.....

Read More: https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB920421328276427000






Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57220 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 10:00 pm to
Rush Limbaugh said the same thing years ago.

Here' one of Bill Clinton's links to China:

Charlie Trie

This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 8:05 am
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15713 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 10:48 pm to
That was a great read. Thanks for sharing. I may end up buying that book.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89528 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 10:53 pm to
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Bet he still votes democrat too


No, he's run for office as a Republican. He wrote the "Shakedown" book about Jesse Jackson. He was warning of OBL in the late 90s and also criticized the Clinton exportation of tech to China during the second Clinton administration.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 10:54 pm to
REAL journalism.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68225 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 8:00 am to
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The left wing of the CIA simply beat the right wing of the CIA in the 1992 Presidential election.
Why then did Bush not get the nomination in 1980?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68225 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 8:11 am to
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I have covered war, espionage and intrigue for major news organizations in the United States and around the world, including the New York Times, Newsweek, Time magazine, Reader’s Digest, CBS 60 Minutes, ABC News, Le Monde, L’Express, Le Point, and many others. That was when these organizations still tried to be “mainstream” and did not pull punches, self-censor and lie to protect their political allies
Has never happened. They have always been biased. In fact, he contradicts his assertion above just a paragraph down the page.
quote:

The first war I went to cover was the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982. As a Left-Bank expat living in Paris, I naturally sympathized with the Palestinians and planned to embed with a pro-Palestinian NGO in beseiged West Beirut. I wanted to write about the plight of innocent civilians whose lives had been shattered by war. I wanted to write about the “little” people, not about politics and politicians


Then he fricked around and found out...
quote:

 The Palestinians rejected my credentials from their own diplomats in Europe, and threw me in an underground cell as a suspected Israeli spy.There were 15 of us packed in the cell, which couldn’t have measured more than 16 by 10 feet. There were Lebanese Christians and Palestinians seeking to flee West Beirut, Kurds, Syrians and even a Somali. All of them smoked to hide the kerosene-fringed stench of the latrine bucket and their own clothes, and I smoked with them, but it just made the air thicker and more fetid.


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I believe this incident formally marks the end of the “mainstream media” as we once knew it.
What a self-important, self-centered a-hole. Mainstream media officially died when HE got fired. These people are blind and stupid.
This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 8:20 am
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146746 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 11:49 am to
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I returned to the States after 18 years overseas to work for Congressional Democrat Tom Lantos as a specialist on weapons of mass destruction, and subsequently joined a new investigative team at Time magazine. Sources in the AFL-CIO Machinists Union tipped me off to strange doings at the B-1 bomber plant in Columbus, Ohio, midnight visits by Chinese intelligence officers, and frustrated US Customs agents. As I investigated, encouraged by Time editors, I uncovered and documented a massive effort by China to buy sensitive military production gear from US weapons plants, seemingly with the benediction — or at least, a blind eye — from Clinton administration officials.

Timmerman said he was shown a complaint from an assistant secretary under Clinton, which was faxed to the editor-in-chief of Time. The story was spiked and Timmerman got fired.

Timmerman said he was shown a complaint from an assistant secretary under Clinton, which was faxed to the editor-in-chief of Time. The story was spiked and Timmerman got fired.

Eventually, along with other reporters, I put together a four-page story on the scheme that was scheduled to run in mid-July 1994. After a Friday lunchtime staff meeting, the Washington, DC, editor, came into my cubicle. “You’ve pissed off people in the administration with your questions,” he said.

“I thought it was my job to ask difficult questions of the administration,” I said.

He fired me on the spot and pulled the story, which ran a year later under the title “China Shops” in the conservative American Spectator magazine. Three years after I was fired, the exporter, McDonnell Douglas, was indicted for export violations, and Sen. Fred Thomson and Rep. Christopher Cox launched massive investigations into the Clinton sell-off of sensitive US technology to Communist China that led to the creation of the US-China Security Commission, which continues to investigate Chinese misdeeds today.
I remember Cox and Thompson investigating. It got way more deeper with the Clinton's and the CCP. It was like Nunes of today. It will go no where.

When they had them to the WH and flew their communist flag and toasted them in public as if it was suddenly cool to consider them an equal partner.

This was when simple online researching became necessary as reporters quit doing their jobs.

It was shocking that they were committing treason and no one could speak of it because of the Clinton 's having an uncanny amount of deaths of the people around them.

Anyone remember the guy that did the interview years later that he was the Clinton clean up man?

Flash forward to the U1 deal with Russia no one will ever hear about again. And a U1 whistle blower's home raided by the FBI. Where did he go?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63997 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 11:53 am to
Journalism was dead long before that. Look at how they covered any conservative in the 70's. Look at how they covered Reagan, and the kinds of questions that they would ask him that Trump would have told them to frick off but Reagan played the game and answered eloquently.

Look at how overseas wars and conflicts were covered depending on if it was a D or R in the white house.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146746 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 11:53 am to
I wonder if James Carville is proud of the Clinton corruption?

WJC is the only one that would fake working as a moderate.
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