re: Nunes: Multiple FISA warrants involving Trump

Posted by Goldrush25

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Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:50 pm to cajunangelle

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Clapper --whether under oath or not-- will cover thy arse and always use parse words. He said OBAMA DID NOT ORDER Trump tapped. When it was Lynch that did the exact order.

What do people have against saying exactly what you mean all of a sudden?

Posted by Dignan

Member since Sep 2005

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Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:57 pm to Deuces

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He's probably "Just finding out on the news, just like everyone else!"

Unlike Trump, who finds Fake News from Fox, then disseminates it to the American public.

Posted by Erin Go Bragh

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Posted on 3/22/17 at 3:00 pm to roadGator

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the beauty of plausible deniability

Ever listen to that jug eared idiot speak? He's the poster boy for plausible deniability.

It's way too easy to believe him when obama claims to have had no idea what was going on.

This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 3:01 pm

Posted by NYNolaguy1

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Posted on 3/22/17 at 3:10 pm to mmcgrath

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I hope Nunes is screwing this up.

Fify.

Posted by RobbBobb

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Posted on 3/22/17 at 3:11 pm to Dignan

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Unlike Trump, who finds Fake News from Fox,

That's pretty embarrassing for you, since it now appears Nunes has the same info that Judge Napolitano had

Posted by udtiger

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Posted on 3/22/17 at 3:13 pm to joshnorris14

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Nunes just said there are "multiple FISA warrants out there" involving Trump

But...

Posted by Rakim

Member since Nov 2015

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Posted on 3/22/17 at 3:15 pm to joshnorris14

Nunes to @jaketapper: "President Trump & the transition team were in these reports that were disseminated widely in the last administration"

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Posted by Rakim

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Posted on 3/22/17 at 3:22 pm to Rakim

Rep Nunes - There will be more information by Friday regarding Trump surveillance.

Posted by RobbBobb

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Posted on 3/22/17 at 3:25 pm to Dwag4life

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Surveillance of foreign agents is both legal & routine.

But dissemination of the American involved, within multiple IC agencies and the White House is not

Posted by Pettifogger

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Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:42 pm to RobbBobb

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So Bloomberg is now fake news, too?

What on earth are you talking about? Josh's first source, for whatever reason, was some tech writer who has #resist in his Twitter profile. I asked him to give us another source on what Nunes was saying. He did, and I thanked him.

You, having a room temperature IQ, took objection. I'm pretty good at figuring out what dumb people want to know, but I really can't even begin to discern what your question is.

Posted by member12

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Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:27 pm to joshnorris14

We knew that. There were multiple attempts made by the Obama administration to spy on the Trump campaign.

The problem is that the media and Democrats will not hold anyone accountable. They won't even hold their own party accountable for rigging the primary or losing the election.

Posted by montanagator

Member since Jun 2015

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Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:29 pm to joshnorris14

Nunes obviously is chill with leaking classified information and/or os making shite up to try and pre-emptively steal the thunder of tonight's revelations.

Posted by member12

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Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:45 pm to RobbBobb

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But dissemination of the American involved, within multiple IC agencies and the White House is not

A distinction that a lot of people will intentionally look over.

Not to mention that multiple attempts to obtain FISA warrants is multiple attempts to surveil the Trump campaign during an election year. That's downright corrupt.

Posted by montanagator

Member since Jun 2015

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Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:46 pm to RobbBobb

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That's pretty embarrassing for you, since it now appears Nunes has the same info that Judge Napolitano had

Oh is Fox going to bar Nunes from air too?

Posted by member12

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Member since May 2008

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Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:16 pm to Rakim

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"President Trump & the transition team were in these reports that were disseminated widely in the last administration

Pretty damning if true.

Posted by UncleFestersLegs

Member since Nov 2010

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Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:27 pm to member12

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We knew that. There were multiple attempts made by the Obama administration to spy on the Trump campaign.

This is what doesnt make sense to me. From what I have read, FISA warrants cannot be directed at US citizens

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Section 702 of the FAA creates a new authority for targeting non-U.S. persons or groups reasonably believed to be located overseas. Under the FAA, the attorney general and the director of national intelligence jointly certify that the target is a non-U.S. person or entity reasonably believed to be overseas. The FISC reviews the certification, whether the procedures in place are reasonably designed to prevent targeting people in the U.S. or obtaining purely domestic communications, and whether the minimization procedures meet the statutory definition of minimization procedures. So long as the government reasonably believes that the target is not an American and is overseas, and it is not conducting the surveillance with the subjective intention of learning about an American (something no court could ever really review), the FISC must grant an order authorizing surveillance.

The F in FISA is self-explanatory. So how could anyone attempt to obtain a FISA warrant for Trump?