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re: Number of low wage jobs fall 6.8%, hours worked fall 9% in seattle after min wage increase

Posted on 6/27/17 at 6:01 pm to
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 6:01 pm to
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Shorty, my bad. I just made an off the cuff assumption that a ton of Americans lived in the top 20 cities. Actually it's only around 10 percent or so, so the number should be one million not one hundred thousand. I made a good faith guess and guessed wrong.

This is the same attitude that cost Democrats the Presidency. They think life in the big city (which has built-in legacy industry) can be extrapolated to rural areas (which have to fight for the economic scraps), and if not, you are an LOL poor.

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I would appreciate you knocking off the insults, I don't ever recall insulting about anything at all.

You seem fond of calling people rednecks. It stems from the above attitude.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37662 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 6:06 pm to
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. Make a law that says each fast food order must be filled by no less than four people for example. Or have a law like they do (did?) in New Jersey, that you can't pump your own gas, someone has to deo that for you.


you can't be serious. This is just next level stupid.

Serious question, and I mean no offense... Are you legit mentally retarded?
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 6:10 pm to
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Make a law that says each fast food order must be filled by no less than four people for example.

Can you imagine how many people would starve to death if that happened? Our society has already devolved into women refusing to cook and undernourished children relying on fast food.

It would hit black people the worst, too. Oh boy, and then crime would go up.

Solid plan, eh?

How about imagining a government-mandated gasoline pumper from being the laziest slug from Obamaland, these days? The whole world would catch on fire.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293233 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 6:12 pm to
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Make a law that says each fast food order must be filled by no less than four people for example.


Sounds like typical Teamsters bullcrap.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 7:20 pm to
I guess we're talking about McDonalds' response to this in Seattle now?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37662 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 12:16 pm to
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Make a law that says each fast food order must be filled by no less than four people for example. Or have a law like they do (did?) in New Jersey, that you can't pump your own gas, someone has to deo that for you.


Euro? Euro?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37662 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 12:28 pm to
Eurrrroooooo. Come back and pllllaaaayyyyyyyyy
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
16390 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 12:29 pm to
I've never called anyone a redneck, I have no idea what you are talking about.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37662 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 12:30 pm to
That's what you come back with?!


Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
16390 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 12:31 pm to
Shorty, why would I be kidding. I already told you many of these kinds of job savers are in place in many places. People don't want robots taking all the jobs - and I think we should be supporting them.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
70096 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 12:38 pm to
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Make a law that says each fast food order must be filled by no less than four people for example.





HOLY shite
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37662 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 12:38 pm to


What do you think will happen to the price of goods and services when you are mandated to employ more people than needed, just Cuz?

A) increase
B) decrease
C) stay the same
D) what goods? They will close.
E) both a and d
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
16390 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 12:41 pm to
It depends on how competitive the industry is. In some cases the company will have to simply accept less profits. Or they will cut elsewhere, no more caviar Christmas parties for the high and mighty at corporate HQ.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37662 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 12:43 pm to
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It depends on how competitive the industry is. In some cases the company will have to simply accept less profits. Or they will cut elsewhere, no more caviar Christmas parties for the high and mighty at corporate HQ.


Wrong. Try again.

For the sake of arguement, you used fast food as an example. What will happen?

If the 24/7 mcdonalds has to keep at minimum 4 people working the overnight shift when only 2 are needed, will they

A) stop the overnight shift, thus firing workers and cutting back hours
B) raise prices across the board, disproportionately affecting poor and minorities whom eat fast food at a higher rate
C) no change at all
D) prices decrease because "production" increases with the addition of two not needed employees?
This post was edited on 6/28/17 at 12:48 pm
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
70096 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 12:44 pm to
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Eurocat



Based on your proposed government mandate post, you need to stop posting.


In fact, you need to be wearing a fricking helmet.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124713 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 12:48 pm to
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In some cases the company will have to simply accept less profits.


For an average LLC, the "accept less profits" means "the owner makes much less." So a small manufacturing company that employs 10 people that loses 33% of the owner's salary to your amazing proposition means he closes his factory and goes to work somewhere else for less headache and more money. Congratulations on closing another business.

The lack of understanding you display on economics is nothing short of breathtaking.
This post was edited on 6/28/17 at 12:49 pm
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
16390 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 12:52 pm to
It is simply to tell beenjeep. Each case will be different. In some cases I can see owner having a tough time, but in others business might increase because people will realize the service is quicker. I mean give me a thousand different businesses and you will get a thousand different outcomes.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37662 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 12:54 pm to
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Each case will be different


Economics is all about overall trends. Not individual cases. What would the overall trend be? Keep showing your lack of understanding for basic economic theory. I get a kick out of it.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 12:59 pm to
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Making 125 a month less is not small when you made 11 an hour at 40 hrs a week. That's roughly a 7% decline in monthly income and that impacts poor people tremendously


How can you make this connection here but not also when it comes to taxes?
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
11727 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 1:37 pm to
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The lol is on the American taxpayer who subsidize low wage employees in the form of benefits. Isn't that funny?




Taxpayer citizen has been paying farmers to not farm or grow only corn for ethanol for decades.
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