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re: Now Trump is under criminal investigation for potential violations of Espionage Act

Posted on 8/12/22 at 5:07 pm to
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15714 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 5:07 pm to
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They apparently want things to pop off here


I’m starting to think that this is the actual goal: to get people to their tipping point so that the fringe will overreact, some people do some stupid things, so that the Feds can try to justify some level of martial law or federal oversight of local law enforcement through DHS.
Posted by FutureMikeVIII
Houston
Member since Sep 2011
1068 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 5:08 pm to
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I think folks need to brace for the very real possibility that in Donald Trump's hubris, petulance and pathologic arrogance, he committed some serious no no's here.


Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111524 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 5:08 pm to
You have a serious case of TDS. Not sure why. But it’s undeniable.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111524 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 5:10 pm to
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I’m starting to think that this is the actual goal: to get people to their tipping point so that the fringe will overreact, some people do some stupid things, so that the Feds can try to justify some level of martial law or federal oversight of local law enforcement through DHS.


Clinton did pretty well with that. Got Waco and Ok City out of the far right.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146773 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 5:23 pm to






Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146773 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 5:28 pm to
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It's hard to follow. Some people say he was undermined:


Other people think he is holding the info as insurance against indictment or assassination.
I am thinking there is a way Trump can over ride Barr telling him if the documents are leaked Trump will be charged with obstruction because it is an on going investigation.

Especially being that Kash outright tweeted about it.

I mean...the entire thing is so ridiculous. Trump vindicating himself comes before Durham saying the poor FBI was lied to. frick Barr & Durham's paint and Honest Bob's bondo.

Posted by Speedoj
St. George, LA
Member since Mar 2022
139 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 5:29 pm to
Can one of the TD legal experts (I’m lookin’ at you, Wednesday) tell me if an espionage charge would change the venue that this all plays out in? Are we looking at military tribunal instead of court?
Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
Member since Mar 2008
1389 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 5:33 pm to
It literally makes no sense to go after Trump. Trump becoming President is the best possible outcome for the Dems in 2024. If he runs and wins he is immediately a lame duck. They would have four years of Trump bashing to drum up their base. If Trump is somehow disqualified they will face DeSantis and eight years of a Republican in the White House.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Member since Oct 2019
5909 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 5:35 pm to
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146773 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 5:36 pm to
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He declassified this in 2020 and it still has not been released to the public.



This is my biggest issue with Trump - not using the authority he had when he had it.

He posted this in October 2020, what was he waiting for to release this info to the public??? This was pre-election, pre-3am vote tallies, pre-election certification drama, pre-January 6, pre-Biden inauguration. Why go through the trouble of declassifying and then not show the public the evidence?
Go read CTH's part 4 series.

Apparently, AG Barr told Trump if he exonerated himself with the release they would charge Trump with obstruction and impeach and remove him.

AG Barr also buffaloed Trump and told him Durham would exonerate Trump the proper way.

Also that Trump should sign over all declassifications of SpyGate & Durham to Barr-that he would handle it-keeping Trump free of interference...

AG Barr also told Trump that all of the declassified documents exonerating Trump would be released unredacted when Durham closed shop.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57992 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 5:40 pm to
Yeah, we are to not only believe that he knowingly took classified documents, but that he also shared that info with our enemies. This is worse than the Russian Collusion Hoax!
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 5:41 pm to
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If you throw enough shite against the wall eventually some sticks.


Trump = Teflon
Posted by TigerAlumni2010
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
4315 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 5:47 pm to
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Yeah, we are to not only believe that he knowingly took classified documents, but that he also shared that info with our enemies. This is worse than the Russian Collusion Hoax!



Also, that the FBI and CIA didn't know that he had the nuclear codes for 18 months. We are supposed to believe all of that, interesting.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23709 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 5:49 pm to
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Absolutely absurd considering Trump was compliant all the way up to the raid.

Apparently he was not compliant. He was still in possession of top secret documents. If he was compliant he would have returned everything.
Posted by RazorBroncs
Harding Bisons Fan
Member since Sep 2013
13540 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 5:50 pm to
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It’s funny how all these kunts start crawling out of the woodwork when shite like this happens.


It really is, and it's a huge part of the reason that they'll never be taken seriously.

They ignore any and every negative news, facts, happenings, stats, gaffes, etc. with the current administration - they're nowhere to be found when discussing the shitty state of the economy, inflation, gas prices, energy prices, the Afghanistan pull-out debacle and our laughable foreign policy, woke bullshite concerning our children, etc.

But one negative event surrounding Trump - their imagined worst enemy - and they show up like flies to shite. That's why nobody will ever actually listen to a democrat, progressive, liberal, lefty, whatever you want to call them on this board. They cannot be taken seriously if they can't recognize the negatives of their own side, and they can type until they're dead of dehydration but nobody will listen to individuals so biased that they can't see the shitshow that is America on 8/12/2022.

So type away democrats of politalk, you're wasting your own time and will never sway anyone's opinion until you can be the slightest bit objective.
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 5:53 pm to
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OR if you act like a mafia boss, thumb your nose at the rule of law, eventually you'll get your due.
Still trying to scrub your grandpa's fingerprints off your hiney, huh? And they never seem to wash off...
Posted by RazorBroncs
Harding Bisons Fan
Member since Sep 2013
13540 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 5:59 pm to
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Apparently he was not compliant. He was still in possession of top secret documents. If he was compliant he would have returned everything.


Link?

And wasn't the FBI and NARA there in June to sort through all this? And wasn't Trump compliant at that time, according to their own statements?

In order to believe what you're saying, you have to believe that the FBI and NARA are incompetent and got "outfoxed" by a Trump that you liberals believe is some idiot. You also have to believe that he didn't comply at the time, even though it's been told by both sides that he did. And then you have to believe that it took them almost 2 years to go after these super top secret and totally dangerous and compromising documents, because reasons.

I honestly don't know how y'all can make sense of this in your heads and call it anything other than what it is - a political hit job.
Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 6:03 pm to
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I’m starting to think that this is the actual goal: to get people to their tipping point so that the fringe will overreact, some people do some stupid things, so that the Feds can try to justify some level of martial law or federal oversight of local law enforcement through DHS.



2ndA
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21895 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 7:34 pm to
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Link?


LINK

Some of you really need to learn how to use the google box, pretending things don't exist makes you look stupid.
Posted by lsuguy84
CO
Member since Feb 2009
19660 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 7:36 pm to
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makes you look stupid


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