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Now they want us to stop saying "Learn to Code"

Posted on 4/23/23 at 10:53 pm
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6493 posts
Posted on 4/23/23 at 10:53 pm
It wasn't so nice when it was on the receiving end.

MIT Tech Review Article

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Joy Lisi Rankin reports on the long history of learn-to-code efforts, which date back to the 1960s. "Then as now," Lisi Rankin writes, "just learning to code is neither a pathway to a stable financial future for people from economically precarious backgrounds nor a panacea for the inadequacies of the educational system."


In other words they're finally admitting that you can't just turn coal miners and oil field hands into C++ programmers. AND coders are getting the axe a good bit these days:

quote:

Software engineers were the most overrepresented position in layoffs in 2023, relative to their employment, according to data requested by Vox from workforce data company Revelio Labs. Last year, when major tech layoffs first began, recruiters and customer success specialists experienced the most outsize impact. So far this year, nearly 20 percent of the 170,000 tech company layoffs were software engineers, even though they made up roughly 14 percent of employees at these companies. "Early layoffs were dominated by recruiters, which is forgoing future hiring," Revelio senior economist Reyhan Ayas told Vox. "Whereas in 2023 we see a shift toward more core engineering and software engineering, which signals a change in focus of current business priorities."

In other words, tech companies aren't just trimming the fat by firing people who fill out their extensive ecosystem, which ranges from marketers to massage therapists. They're also, many for the first time, making cuts to the people who build the very products they're known for, and who enjoyed a sort of revered status since they, like the founders of the companies, were coders. Software engineers are still important, but they don't have the power they used to...
Posted by fool_on_the_hill
Member since Jan 2019
511 posts
Posted on 4/23/23 at 10:57 pm to
ya know i was just thinking yesterday i wish was woody guthrie was around to write a song called "learn to code"
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22797 posts
Posted on 4/23/23 at 11:14 pm to
Coding is a skill that you can just hire off the street.

The valuable person is the creative mind that thinks up the system to be coded. The person who benefits from the data science and coding skills are the creative system creators.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 4/23/23 at 11:26 pm to
Learn to plumb

Learn to weld

Learn to finish concrete
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
19663 posts
Posted on 4/23/23 at 11:30 pm to
Yes
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15055 posts
Posted on 4/23/23 at 11:32 pm to
quote:

Learn to plumb


quote:

Learn to weld


quote:

Learn to finish concrete


It's what men do and women don't want to do.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6411 posts
Posted on 4/23/23 at 11:35 pm to
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ust learning to code is neither a pathway to a stable financial future for people from economically precarious backgrounds nor a panacea for the inadequacies of the educational system


How about ten minutes early is on time? How about not making excuses and blaming others? How about taking ownership of your development, your work, and your career? (not directed at OP, but you get my drift; you can't prevent every layoff of decent people, but when there is so much deadweight...)

It's the compiler, its AWS, it's my laptop, I spilled coffee on my device, blah blah blah. The PM didn't remind me, I didn't get the Slack notification, I didn't prepare for the meeting (not that they'd admit that)...

And yes, recruiters especially for tech companies should be some of the first to go. In the 90s I met a girl serving at a strip club that admitted that working at a bar near the airport felt more honest than being a tech recruiter in Austin. I had one of my recruiters/handlers say, "You're certified in Cisco, like the food delivery company (Sysco is what she was thinking of?)" A tech recruiter, baws.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12881 posts
Posted on 4/23/23 at 11:37 pm to
quote:

Coding is a skill that you can just hire off the street.

And soon, you can just use AI to code - better than humans.
Posted by joeyjoejoeshabadoo
DeRidder
Member since Aug 2020
428 posts
Posted on 4/23/23 at 11:41 pm to
High profile, over-valued tech firms are shedding software engineers by the thousands after years of irresponsible hiring.
As a profession, software engineering has kept abreast of inflation faster than traditional engineering disciplines. The jobs are just super duper boring, but they pay really well.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
7578 posts
Posted on 4/24/23 at 4:48 am to
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It's what men do and women don't want to do

Learn to cook.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89518 posts
Posted on 4/24/23 at 5:21 am to
AI is coming for most of us.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57941 posts
Posted on 4/24/23 at 5:34 am to
Won’t AI take many coding jobs?
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