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re: Now that Iran has claimed victory what realistic and sensible options are left for the US.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:30 pm to Bass Tiger
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:30 pm to Bass Tiger
What's AI think about the situation?
It's the political victory that Iran is hoping for.
The Islamic Regime and their CCP partners believe if the Islamic Regime is not toppled the likelihood of Republicans winning the upcoming 2026 midterms becomes much more difficult if the conflict is still ongoing during the midterm election.
There is much more at stake domestically than most have taken into account.
I continue to urge all who are Believers, pray for those in the fight against the Islamic Regime and pray the Democratic Socialists do not regain Congressional power after the midterms.
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Direct & Immediate Answer
Reputable defense analysts and strategists generally do not frame the conflict as an outright military victory for Iran, noting that U.S. and Israeli strikes heavily degraded Iran's conventional military and navy. However, prominent institutions like the Brookings Institution and the Modern War Institute at West Point argue that Iran successfully leveraged asymmetric and irregular warfare to achieve strategic goals, leaving the U.S. in a politically and economically disadvantaged position. CSIS | Center for Strategic and International Studies +3
Strategic Analysis and PerspectivesThe Case for an Asymmetric Strategic AdvantageControl and Leverage: Analysts point out that Iran effectively secured leverage over global energy markets by disrupting the Strait of Hormuz, forcing high costs onto the U.S. and its allies without needing to win a conventional naval battle. Modern War Institute - +1
Systemic Pressure: Experts at West Point's Modern War Institute note that Tehran successfully shifted the conflict away from conventional military engagements—where the U.S. holds the advantage—into fragile commercial, economic, and regional political systems. Modern War Institute
-Political Objectives vs. Military Wins: Commentators in outlets like The Atlantic emphasize that while U.S. leadership claims a historic military victory, Washington failed to secure its core long-term political and economic objectives, such as safeguarding shipping lanes and stabilizing energy prices. The Atlantic +1
It's the political victory that Iran is hoping for.
The Islamic Regime and their CCP partners believe if the Islamic Regime is not toppled the likelihood of Republicans winning the upcoming 2026 midterms becomes much more difficult if the conflict is still ongoing during the midterm election.
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Yes, analysis of the geopolitical situation indicates that Iranian leadership believes a prolonged, unresolved conflict and resulting economic fallout will cause significant political damage to Republicans in the midterm elections, potentially forcing a change in U.S. policy. Instagram·
The Economist
Iranian Strategy and Expectations
Waiting Out the U.S.: Iranian officials assess that dragging out the confrontation and delaying a clean resolution will stretch the conflict right into the midterm elections. The Hill
Leveraging Economic Pain: Tehran calculates that continuous economic pressure—such as elevated oil and gas prices driven by the war—will fuel domestic American discontent. Instagram·
The EconomistExpecting Congressional Shifts: Iranian leadership reportedly hopes that voter backlash and anti-war sentiment will lead to major losses for Republicans in Congress, which they believe would strip the administration of leverage and compel an end to the military engagement. Instagram·The Economist
There is much more at stake domestically than most have taken into account.
I continue to urge all who are Believers, pray for those in the fight against the Islamic Regime and pray the Democratic Socialists do not regain Congressional power after the midterms.
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:32 pm to Powerman
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And once again...how does this benefit American citizens?
We would control the oil supply to the world.
Which means we control the world,
No Nation would ever think about challenging the
USA.
They already think this but this would plant
the flag in the sand.
I know you don’t like these thoughts but …
Iran killed too many Americans
Sorry for your loss
This whole premise is guaranteeing a win for
America so I know you hate it.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:33 pm to Rip Torner
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It’s pretty obvious what I think of your post. Now, as far as the “war” goes? It was a major gamble to undertake and not wise before an election but I can’t say Iran hasn’t earned it. The military strikes were about 4 months too late
The gist of the post was an invitation for those on this forum to voice their opinion on what's the best strategy going forward for the US vs Iran....that's it.
This post was edited on 7/28/26 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:36 pm to Powerman
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Seems as if we're in a lose/lose situation that we didn't need to be in
We've been in this situation for 50+ years ...
And if you understood history, we've been on this crash course since 700 AD ...
This post was edited on 7/28/26 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:37 pm to AmishSamurai
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We've been in this situation for 50+ years ...
No. We definitely haven't.
Iran keeps to themselves and was never a threat to Americans in our own country.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:38 pm to Powerman
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Iran keeps to themselves and was never a threat to Americans in our own country.
You are ignorant of history and aren't qualified for this discussion
This post was edited on 7/28/26 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:38 pm to Powerman
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No. We definitely haven't. Iran keeps to themselves and was never a threat to Americans in our own country.
I wish you would look at this motherfricker
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:40 pm to Powerman
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Iran keeps to themselves
What world do you live in? It’s certainly not reality,
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:40 pm to bamadontcare
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We would control the oil supply to the world.
We currently have less control over it than we previously did. And we previously had significant control over it.
You could argue that this is a temporary set back and the tide will turn. And it might.
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This whole premise is guaranteeing a win for
America so I know you hate it.
Nothing is guaranteed. We didn't need this win because we were already great. This was an unnecessary risk.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:43 pm to Powerman
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Nothing is guaranteed. We didn't need this win because we were already great. This was an unnecessary risk.
Have you ever read projection scenarios where a
nuke is detonated in a first world Nation?
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:44 pm to ChatGPT of LA
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asking your opinion on what the US should do
Get 100000 satellite phones and drop them sporadically over the most populated area. Make them all active and get 10s of thousands of peeps with hidden live phones and offer them for information of any military offices or equipment, hidden throughout the country.
Give them a awaybto unite and form groups.
They are in the dark, the internet could be the answer. We need help inside of the borders. There are plenty with information that have no way of informing us.
They HATE the IRGC
I'm not saying your idea doesn't have some validity but from what we've been told about Israeli intelligence, there is none better. The US and Israel took out over 100 of the top honchos of leadership within the Islamic Regime and it was next man up. I'm not sure what info Trump was given by Bibi and Israeli Intelligence that made him decide to give the green light on tangling with Iran but at this point it doesn't matter now.....the US has to have an unequivocal victory and that includes Iran not having control of the strait, Iran not having nuclear weapons and in reality, the Islamic Regime has to go.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:45 pm to Powerman
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We currently have less control over it than we previously did. And we previously had significant control over it.
You could argue that this is a temporary set back and the tide will turn. And it might.
Why do you join these threads where you are so ignorant ...
Go ask any search engine who the largest net exporter of oil is ....
Also while there ... find out why the majority of oil transacting is done in dollars
It's called hegemony...
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:45 pm to deathvalleytiger10
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What world do you live in? It’s certainly not reality,
Not sure about you but I live in the United States. When was the last time they attacked Americans on U.S. soil? When is the last time they waged a war against a neighbor in the region?
The bulk of the chaos they cause in the region is done through their proxies. And while they're the biggest financial backers they aren't the sole financial backers. Some of the Iranian proxies are funded by nations that are considered our partners in the region like the UAE, Qatar, Turkey. That resistance axis would exist with our without Iranian support.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:45 pm to Powerman
Yep.
We just have to find out where the leadership hides. I'm now seeing reports of offices in schools, etc...to hide from our weapons fire
If we eliminate enough top irgc, we make huge progress. Supposedly, we own the airspace and have full command, so the drop should be simple
We just have to find out where the leadership hides. I'm now seeing reports of offices in schools, etc...to hide from our weapons fire
If we eliminate enough top irgc, we make huge progress. Supposedly, we own the airspace and have full command, so the drop should be simple
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:48 pm to AmishSamurai
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Also while there ... find out why the majority of oil transacting is done in dollars
It's called hegemony...
Yes. That existed prior to this conflict you might recall.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:50 pm to bamadontcare
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Have you ever read projection scenarios where a
nuke is detonated in a first world Nation?
Yes. What's your point? Did you think Iran was going to nuke the United States?
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:51 pm to Powerman
I responded to your specific statement that Iran keeps to themselves. The list is long of dead US soldiers from Iranian attacks and yes often by proxies funded by Iran.
Every President Since Carter has railed against Iran, none had the guts to take action. Trump took out their Supreme Leader and hundreds of others that have killed our fellow Americans.
Thank God they haven’t attacked us within the US. Is that what you think should determine action by the US? Oh hey, you attacked our servicemen but not inside our borders so it’s cool.
Oh crap, I forgot, your party doesn’t believe in borders.
Every President Since Carter has railed against Iran, none had the guts to take action. Trump took out their Supreme Leader and hundreds of others that have killed our fellow Americans.
Thank God they haven’t attacked us within the US. Is that what you think should determine action by the US? Oh hey, you attacked our servicemen but not inside our borders so it’s cool.
Oh crap, I forgot, your party doesn’t believe in borders.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:52 pm to Powerman
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Who is better than Trump to fix what Trump broke?
This is rampant stupidity on parade
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Carter literally let the Shah's regime fall in 1979
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The United States trafficked arms to Iran between 1981 and 1986, facilitated by senior officials of the Reagan administration. The administration hoped to use the proceeds of the arms sale to fund the Contras, an anti-Sandinista rebel group in Nicaragua.
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In September 2009 Western leaders exposed a secret Iranian facility. US President Barack Obama, joined by France and Britain revealed intelligence on the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant, an underground enrichment site being built deep inside a mountain near Qom. Iran had not declared Fordow to the IAEA, violating its safeguards duty to report new facilities at the planning stage.
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At Iran’s request, the Obama administration granted Iran access to the U.S. financial system, despite repeated public assurances that it would not do so.
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Throughout 2021 and 2022, Iran installed cascades of advanced centrifuges at Natanz and Fordow, significantly increasing its enrichment output. In February 2021, the IAEA reported that Iran stopped allowing access to data from nuclear sites, as well as plans for future sites. Iran upped its production to 60% enriched uranium, an unprecedented level for Iran, just short of weapons-grade. This 60% enrichment took place at Natanz, and later at Fordow as well, yielding a stockpile that as of early 2023 exceeded ~70 kg of 60% uranium. The UK, France, and Germany without input from the Biden administration, raised alarms at the rapid rate of Iranian enrichment.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:53 pm to Bass Tiger
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many military strategists could make a solid argument that Iran has indeed won this military conflict.
LOL
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:54 pm to deathvalleytiger10
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Every President Since Carter has railed against Iran, none had the guts to take action. Trump took out their Supreme Leader and hundreds of others that have killed our fellow Americans.
Thank God they haven’t attacked us within the US. Is that what you think should determine action by the US? Oh hey, you attacked our servicemen but not inside our borders so it’s cool.
I'm also aware that the United States isn't patient when it comes to vengeance. We backed Iraq in an almost decade long war against the Iranians. It's not like we haven't had our payback. Keep falling for the propaganda that leads to these stupid wars though. I'm sure one of them will work out for us eventually.
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