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re: Northam & his NOVA cohorts overruled by a judge
Posted on 4/29/20 at 11:31 pm to texashorn
Posted on 4/29/20 at 11:31 pm to texashorn
quote:that's exactly what the 2nd Amendment means. All of the founding fathers were felons in the eyes of King George. Do you think they thought they shouldn't be allowed to own guns. Banning guns from anybody at all is a violation of the 2nd amendment.
That also implies that felons can buy guns legally. No holds barred.
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Posted on 4/29/20 at 11:33 pm to texashorn
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You ignored the legitimate government interest in stopping the spread of a virus.
Passing a collection plate in church would seem to be constitutionally protected, as would taking communion. Both are suspended right now with judicial blessing.
I did not. You are wrong here again. Churches have been ‘blessed’ to have their services provided they follow social distance or protective measures, not unilaterally shut down. Please stop with false equivalence and outright false info.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 11:43 pm to AMS
That is a great point, but I do not believe a gun range is directly related to the right to bear arms. Edit: at least in a manner that infringes on your right to bear arms in the manner that shutting down church keeps you from practicing your religion.
But that’s just like my opinion, man.
It’s a debate. It might be a misinterpretation but it’s not necessarily false information.
But that’s just like my opinion, man.
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Please stop with false equivalence and outright false info.
It’s a debate. It might be a misinterpretation but it’s not necessarily false information.
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 11:51 pm
Posted on 4/29/20 at 11:45 pm to texashorn
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That also implies that felons can buy guns legally. No holds barred.
Good people can lose their cool during unstable times, too, and run out and load up on guns and put innocent people in danger. People snap.
What is this dribble?
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:06 am to texashorn
You're a bot right? Real people aren't actually this dumb.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:31 am to texashorn
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That is a great point, but I do not believe a gun range is directly related to the right to bear arms. Edit: at least in a manner that infringes on your right to bear arms in the manner that shutting down church keeps you from practicing your religion.
But that’s just like my opinion, man.
And I am grateful that the Supreme Court and state courts do not share ‘like your opinion, man‘.
Historical and current interpretation of 2A is related to being well trained/regulated firearm owners, you even quoted majority opinions of this. Shooting ranges are literally venues for training/skills. Being well trained is directly related to bearing arms, regardless of your unconstitutional belief. Training Was not referred to as acceptable limitations on sales/qualifications of possession per the quotes you brought to the table. .
False info I referred to was that church services are entirely shut down, That is false info and you are still arguing it.
Considering a shooting range the same as dangerously practicing shooting targets from your appt 209 and imposing restrictions on training of the militia is clearly misinterpretation of 2a.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:33 am to SOKAL
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You are a special kind of dumbass
You're just now realizing this?
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:35 am to texashorn
quote:You drunk, or high?
That also implies that felons can buy guns legally. No holds barred.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:35 am to AMS
Public gun ranges are not the only place to train and exercise your right to bear arms, while in the eyes of most religions, attending church in person is the only way to properly practice your religion.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:37 am to texashorn
quote:Why didn’t he close media newsrooms and production facilities, too?
The Va. Attorney General believes it’s to limit spread of the virus in an indoor gun range.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:40 am to texashorn
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If you want to target practice, do it on your own land.
Whites own land many times more so than black and brown people. Banning indoor gun ranges disproportionately restricts the rights of minorities and is thus racism.
Man liberal arguments are so easy to use.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:43 am to texashorn
quote:Nor are they only place CV is transmissible. Many of which remained open.
Public gun ranges are not the only place to train and exercise your right to bear arms,
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 12:44 am
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:49 am to Taxing Authority
This is limited to indoor shooting ranges. An alternative exists... outdoor shooting ranges.
List of businesses Virginia deems essential and non-essential
List of businesses Virginia deems essential and non-essential
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 12:52 am
Posted on 4/30/20 at 1:02 am to texashorn
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Public gun ranges are not the only place to train and exercise your right to bear arms, while in the eyes of most religions, attending church in person is the only way to properly practice your religion.
Again churches are not entirely shut down. There are ways they still provide services. Besides I’m not sure the churches restrictions will fully withstand future scrutiny, too little time has passed. But A gun range being shut down entirely is different. Training is directly related to 2a. I’m done spelling this out, if you didn’t comprehend it the past 4 times that’s that. I get it, you disagree with historical precedent and interpretation
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 1:04 am
Posted on 4/30/20 at 2:02 am to texashorn
You don’t sound comfortable with America. Or being outside.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 2:08 am to texashorn
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I would like to read more about this, but saying the governor can’t restrict guns during a public emergency AT ALL means that during a disaster or violent criminal uprising in Virginia, the governor could not suspend gun sales, either
This... is the point of the second amendment??
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(a common feature of state and local emergency laws).
And here we find the problem
Posted on 4/30/20 at 2:25 am to MeatCleaverWeaver
Finally some good news in this shithole state!
Posted on 4/30/20 at 3:49 am to texashorn
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by texashorn
I would like to read more about this, but saying the governor can’t restrict guns during a public emergency AT ALL means that during a disaster or violent criminal uprising in Virginia, the governor could not suspend gun sales, either (a common feature of state and local emergency laws).
I know that could be abused, but taking that away could lead to good people being endangered.
What? You’re confused!
Posted on 4/30/20 at 4:04 am to texashorn
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Public gun ranges are not the only place to train and exercise your right to bear arms
"Shall not be infringed"
The 2nd Amendment is a product of English culture, and our ancestors experience in the Glorious Revolution. During the lead up, the crown used a standing army to suppress parliament and the people.
English thinkers, influenced by the time, concluded that a militia made up of ordinary people, was the only way to prevent such abuses from occurring in the future. A standing army would always serve the kings interest, whereas a peoples army couldn't be corrupted.
When the founders wrote the 2nd amendment, they were remembering this period. They had just rebelled against what they saw as an unjust authority, and fought a long war against British regulars. They wanted to encourage and protect gun ownership, so we could defend ourselves against any threat, internal or external. And so they drafted the 2nd amendment, creating an expansive protection of gun rights.
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Public gun ranges are not the only place to train and exercise your right to bear arms
The majority of Virginians wouldn't have a place to learn to shoot, or to practice, without gun ranges. Most people live in urban or suburban environments.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 4:39 am to texashorn
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I would like to read more about this, but saying the governor can’t restrict guns during a public emergency AT ALL means that during a disaster or violent criminal uprising in Virginia, the governor could not suspend gun sales, either (a common feature of state and local emergency laws).
You libs make it too complicated horn, if you want our guns come get them. We'll see how it goes
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