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re: No ground troops
Posted on 3/8/26 at 9:55 am to choupiquesushi
Posted on 3/8/26 at 9:55 am to choupiquesushi
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let one air crew go down. Then a USAF PJ team, Delta or Devgru unit will be on the ground. TRAP teams may already have been or be in strategic areas for prompt SAR.
They aren’t going to use Delta or ST6 to recover a downed pilot.
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Posted on 3/8/26 at 9:55 am to NashvilleTider
Our "boots" are counterinsurgency and extraction experts.
I have no inside knowledge.
But that is what i see our "boots" doing with this conflict.
So yes. We will have boots on the ground. But we aren't setting up shop in Iran until the Iranian government invites us and asks for support (i.e. a base in the future).
We plan on playing WhackaMole with the Iranian military industrial complex until we can get the Artesh to rise up and overthrow the current leadership.
The Middle East is not the west. They do not genuflect loyalty the way we do. They respect power. And powerful authority. And that isn't the Iranian Republic of Iran.
When the Artesh realize that they will control the mechanisms to build their future government is when this "war" actually starts and ends.
I have no inside knowledge.
But that is what i see our "boots" doing with this conflict.
So yes. We will have boots on the ground. But we aren't setting up shop in Iran until the Iranian government invites us and asks for support (i.e. a base in the future).
We plan on playing WhackaMole with the Iranian military industrial complex until we can get the Artesh to rise up and overthrow the current leadership.
The Middle East is not the west. They do not genuflect loyalty the way we do. They respect power. And powerful authority. And that isn't the Iranian Republic of Iran.
When the Artesh realize that they will control the mechanisms to build their future government is when this "war" actually starts and ends.
Posted on 3/8/26 at 9:56 am to sta4ever
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This “Special Military Operation” better not turn into a full blown war.
or you'll do what?
blow your rape whistle..medic! medic!
Posted on 3/8/26 at 9:57 am to Godfather1
How do you define ground forces.
Are special ops ground forces?
Are special ops ground forces?
Posted on 3/8/26 at 9:58 am to ItTakesAThief
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Are special ops ground forces?
Of course they are.
Although I personally think there will be conventional troops in Iran as well.
Posted on 3/8/26 at 10:00 am to NashvilleTider
[quote]No ground troops [quote]
SloProMullah will not like this one bit
SloProMullah will not like this one bit
This post was edited on 3/8/26 at 10:01 am
Posted on 3/8/26 at 10:01 am to ItTakesAThief
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How do you define ground forces.
Large numbers of troops, division size, minimum. An occupying force.
quote:
Are special ops ground forces?
Technically, yes. They are “boots on the ground”. But they’re mission specific and can be deployed/extracted rapidly if needed.
Posted on 3/8/26 at 10:08 am to NashvilleTider
There will be ground troops but nobody said it had to be ours?
Posted on 3/8/26 at 10:11 am to ArcticTiger
Was listening to some former generals talk. They said they will most likely be paid militia from Iraq and other middle eastern countries.
Posted on 3/8/26 at 10:14 am to idlewatcher
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Both have been castrated.
How has China been castrated, especially in the scenario where we create a power vacuum in Iran?
Russia "castrated" itself in Ukraine but still can influence a destabilized Iran
Posted on 3/8/26 at 10:16 am to meansonny
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When the Artesh realize that they will control the mechanisms to build their future government is when this "war" actually starts and ends.
Starts? Sure
Ends? Why would you think that? That sounds like the perfect recipe for Muslim extremist insurgents to eat and engage in terrorism against that new US/Israeli-backed government
Posted on 3/8/26 at 10:16 am to thebigmuffaletta
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SloProMullah will not like this one bit
I don't want ground troops in Iran
Posted on 3/8/26 at 10:16 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:They are at best a regional threat with a nuclear capability currently.
How has China been castrated, especially in the scenario where we create a power vacuum in Iran?
They are going to step into a vacuum they were already buying cheap oil from and partners?
Posted on 3/8/26 at 10:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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quote:
When the Artesh realize that they will control the mechanisms to build their future government is when this "war" actually starts and ends.
Starts? Sure
Ends? Why would you think that? That sounds like the perfect recipe for Muslim extremist insurgents to eat and engage in terrorism against that new US/Israeli-backed government
Isn't that the goal?
I don't see this as a gotcha.
If Iran is not the world's leading state sponsor of terror, we have victory.
If Iran's chief export is not weapons and money to factions all across the neighboring middle east nations, we have victory.
If Iran is not developing nuclear enrichment, we have victory.
If Iran is facing the challenges of building and maintaining a government, that is life. And the life that a good majority of their own people want.
Posted on 3/8/26 at 10:22 am to Jbird
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They are at best a regional threat with a nuclear capability currently.
Sure, but that's not "castrated" in any way.
And gaining power over Iran would help them immensely.
quote:
They are going to step into a vacuum they were already buying cheap oil from and partners?
The talking point is this excludes China from using Iran when this provides China with the opportunity to exert even more influence and control Iran by proxy.
Posted on 3/8/26 at 10:23 am to SlowFlowPro
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And gaining power over Iran would help them immensely.
How exactly is China going to pull that off? quote:Again how?
The talking point is this excludes China from using Iran when this provides China with the opportunity to exert even more influence and control Iran by proxy.
Posted on 3/8/26 at 10:23 am to meansonny
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Isn't that the goal?
Civil war and a destabilized Iran is the goal?
Centralizing fanatical Muslim conflict doesn't tend to lead to positive outcomes, historically
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If Iran is not the world's leading state sponsor of terror, we have victory.
If Iran's chief export is not weapons and money to factions all across the neighboring middle east nations, we have victory.
You seem to be defining these hyper-specifically to the current regime and ignoring that other groups can do this as well.
Posted on 3/8/26 at 10:24 am to NashvilleTider
Warhawks need to face it. If "regime change" is the goal, somebody is going to have to hold ground to make it happen. The likelihood of that being some CIA-built rebel group seems low to me. If it's Israel, I would think you risk major regional religious conflict. That leaves us.
Posted on 3/8/26 at 10:24 am to SlowFlowPro
While not ideal, an Iran controlled by China would still be better than the status quo of the last 50 years.
Posted on 3/8/26 at 10:25 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Okay name them.
You seem to be defining these hyper-specifically to the current regime and ignoring that other groups can do this as well.
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