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re: "No Amendment is absolute."
Posted on 12/5/22 at 5:57 pm to Bayoutigre
Posted on 12/5/22 at 5:57 pm to Bayoutigre
what political party want to remove the 2nd amendment?
what political party want to take away your freedom of speech? twitter and social media
what political party wants to control who gets to vote,illegal non citizen multiple votes,mail in bs same day registration,drop boxes
apparently it means nothing to them
what political party want to take away your freedom of speech? twitter and social media
what political party wants to control who gets to vote,illegal non citizen multiple votes,mail in bs same day registration,drop boxes
apparently it means nothing to them
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Posted on 12/5/22 at 6:22 pm to Indefatigable
quote:i bet the founding fathers would disagree.
No Amendment is absolute.
This is a true statement.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 6:33 pm to Pelican fan99
quote:
the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with nukes tf you blabbering about
You cannot bring a 9mm handgun into a public school.
The government has infringed on your second amendment rights.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 6:36 pm to POTUS2024
quote:
ncidental to, a crime, that the absolutist doctrine is invoked. This is the worst defense of relativism and limitations I've ever seen. And it's a pretty poor attempt at trying to box people into a corner. I suppose next you're going to tell me that laws against armed robbery are also a limitation on speech because you may be inclined to say, "this is a stick up!".
No I’m not. Im not defending anything. I’m just stating facts. The point is that the protection afforded by the amendments are not absolute. The merits of those limits are totally immaterial to my posts. There are limits. There have always been limits.
Pointing to SCOTUS cases defining what “free speech” means only strengthens my point. The mere fact that freedom of speech doesn’t mean that everything goes inherently shows that limits exist.
This post was edited on 12/5/22 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 12/5/22 at 6:41 pm to TigerAxeOK
quote:Your post, as a whole, puts you sqarely in the running for this year's most likely “red card” recipient.
Think of that literature about "men who wanted to be left alone".
quote:Why is it that you think it was God that bestowed this right on us?
Owning firearms is not a privilege bestowed by the government. It is an inalienable right bestowed by GOD.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 6:50 pm to Indefatigable
quote:no argument there but the nuke talking point is just silly
You cannot bring a 9mm handgun into a public school.
The government has infringed on your second amendment rights.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 6:57 pm to Pelican fan99
quote:
no argument there but the nuke talking point is just silly
Obviously. Equally as silly as anyone claiming that the 2A’s protection is absolute.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 6:59 pm to Indefatigable
quote:it 100% should be. Shall not be infringed is pretty clear. Just because we’ve let the government walk all over it doesn’t make it ok
Equally as silly as anyone claiming that the 2A’s protection is absolute.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 7:01 pm to Pelican fan99
quote:
Just because we’ve let the government walk all over it doesn’t make it ok
I haven’t indicated that I believe otherwise.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:13 am to texridder
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Why is it that you think it was God that bestowed this right on us?
Well, it most likely wasn't any god, but we do have a natural right to self-defense.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:17 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
most likely wasn't any god,
So you are saying there is a chance.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:18 am to texridder
quote:
us
Us? There is no us. You are them. Not us. Get it straight.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:41 am to roadGator
quote:
So you are saying there is a chance.
Could be.
Thanks for the downvote. Have an upvote.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:54 am to TbirdSpur2010
Read Jefferson, a strict Constitutionalist...a letter to a fellow Virginian in 1816.
A snippet which relates to the topic:
A snippet which relates to the topic:
quote:
“Some men look at constitutions with sanctimonious reverence, and deem them like the ark of the covenant, too sacred to be touched. They ascribe to the men of the preceding age a wisdom more than human, and suppose what they did to be beyond amendment. I knew that age well; I belonged to it, and labored with it. It deserved well of its country.”
Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:43 am to TbirdSpur2010
how are you? hope all is well with you.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 2:43 pm to cajunangelle
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how are you? hope all is well with you.
Doing well!
Hope the same for you and yours. Merry Christmas! 
Posted on 12/6/22 at 2:59 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
Could be.
There is a God.
You just reject him, which is your right.
We will be judged, all the same.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:09 pm to Indefatigable
quote:If the military can have it I should be able to have it.
It isn’t. You can’t have a thermonuclear weapon as a private citizen and pretending like you don’t understand why is a bad look
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:16 pm to Indefatigable
There are better examples. Suppose a violent criminal commits some criminal act with a gun and at some point is disarmed by police. No one would claim his Second Amendment right had been violated by being disarmed.
There are obviously situations to which the fundamental principles established by our amendments do not apply. It is a crucial aspect of originalism that it be understood that the Constitution remains silent about most issues. But when people start talking about amendments not being absolute what they are generally implying is a way to get around those principles by circumventing the democratic process.
There are obviously situations to which the fundamental principles established by our amendments do not apply. It is a crucial aspect of originalism that it be understood that the Constitution remains silent about most issues. But when people start talking about amendments not being absolute what they are generally implying is a way to get around those principles by circumventing the democratic process.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:17 pm to MFn GIMP
quote:
If the military can have it I should be able to have it.
This. TBH.
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