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re: NFL History Refresher

Posted on 9/13/18 at 6:51 pm to
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 6:51 pm to
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What about all the other people that have protested? Or is it just him donating? You would think it would be lots more from the NFL, especially since they are still employed.


Malcolm Jenkins and Chris Long have also been active outside of just kneeling. I don't know what other players have done, but I assume some knelt as a show of support for the guys who do.
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
38678 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 6:54 pm to
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Sorry you idiots don’t know how to play the game. Since this is a football thread....congrats on winning the time of possession. What’s the score?

Oh...and illegals are why he lost the popular. Everyone knows that.


Oh lord.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125750 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 6:55 pm to
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Malcolm Jenkins and Chris Long have also been active outside of just kneeling.


The ones doing anything of note are few and far between. The nfl tried to start a PR blitz to keep up with the positive actions of their players for charity and it died on the vine.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 7:03 pm to
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or to learn the actual reasons the players are kneeling.


Why don’t you educate us

Please tell us why we should support a false narrative that blames law enforcement for the problems in the black community. And just for shits and giggles why don’t you explain it in the context of a city like Baltimore with a black mayor, black police chief, black DA, massive black police force presence, etc.

I’ll have my popcorn ready
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
20713 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 7:06 pm to
I’m no fan of Kap or what he’s doing, but I see couple things wrong with your post. First, in most of those instances (Tebow aside) the NFL reacted in a preventative manner by not allowing players to wear certain items. They shut it down beforehand or levied fines immediately after. The Kap kneeling is a completely different animal. It was several games before anyone even noticed he was doing it and by then it was too late for the NFL to step in and prevent him from continuing to knee. The media narrative that he was kneeling to protest police brutality had been set and with the entire Black Lives Matter craziness going on, there was no way the NFL was going to step in and fine him or prevent him from doing it like they would a uniform violation.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141676 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 7:21 pm to
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they're not out to disrespect the country/flag/military. They're using a platform to protest police brutality (whether that's warranted or not is irrelevant.



That is such a weak argument.

They may be protesting police brutality. But they are doing it by disrespecting the National Anthem and the presentation of the Flag. -- which it turn disrespects those that have fought and died for what that flag represents.

If it is really about police brutality, they should figure out a different way to protest. --- problem solved.

If the NFL is going to allow political demonstrations by their employees at work, will they allow anti-abortion demonstrations? How about gay marriage?
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 7:32 pm to
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will they allow anti-abortion demonstrations? How about gay marriage?

By kneeling for the anthem? The teams can handle it how they see fit.

Do you have a problem with that?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141676 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 7:35 pm to
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By kneeling for the anthem?


No. Don't be a nimrod.

If the NFL is going to allow protesting, people should be able to protest how the see fit.

Especially if it is really a 1st Amendment issue like people are claiming.
Posted by coonasswhodat
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
4112 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 8:22 pm to
I seem to remember Reggie Bush being fined for wearing the wrong colored shoes. Why didn’t you mention this? It seems to fit in with the rest, uniform violations.
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
71367 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 8:39 pm to
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Yes they did. They don't allow "personal statements" to be worn by anyone.



You missed Kap's socks.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 8:44 pm to
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If the NFL is going to allow protesting, people should be able to protest how the see fit.
They are allowed to protest however they see fit

And the teams are allowed to handle it however they want to, as well

Why is this concept so hard for you to grasp?
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
11589 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 10:41 pm to
It hurt not watching NFL games for a couple months. I stopped immediately when the kneeling began. I now have no regrets. I'll not watch again.
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
8195 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 11:04 pm to
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Kaepernick has donated $1 million to various social justice charities over the last year. Pretty good for an unemployed guy.


I donate to lot's of causes and charities and I am not OT rich like CK.
It doesn't take a lot of effort.

Again, the question is What is he and the other blowhard's doing during the offseason besides donating to pole dancer's?
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
8195 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 11:04 pm to
DP
This post was edited on 9/13/18 at 11:05 pm
Posted by Topisawtiger
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
3680 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 1:37 am to
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they're not out to disrespect the country/flag/military. They're using a platform to protest police brutality (whether that's warranted or not is irrelevant. Many unwarranted protests happen every day. Jesus protesters scream at me I'm going to hell for having a beer on Bourbon street)

Whether they mean to disrespect the country/flag/military is irrelevant. The fact that they are is the point. There are many other ways to protest and be respectful, and this ain't one of them.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
26476 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 5:01 am to
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3. Colin Kapernick is not a good QB. Otherwise he'd still have a job. Nobody is sacrificing wins for some bullshite cause.


I would add he is worth $20M. If this is sacrificing then sign me up.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 5:20 am to
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Whether they mean to disrespect the country/flag/military is irrelevant. The fact that they are is the point.


He isn't disrespecting the military.

It's much more disrespectful to shame and hate him for protesting. Most of the other veterans and current military I know agree with that. Not all, but most.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141676 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 5:34 am to
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They are allowed to protest however they see fit



No they aren't. They are only allowing the protesting the flag.

quote:

And the teams are allowed to handle it however they want to, as well



The teams are looking for the commissioner to enforce the policies that are already in place.

quote:

Why is this concept so hard for you to grasp?


I'm not the one having a hard time. Quit being a nimrod.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135804 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 5:43 am to
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He isn't disrespecting the military.
If I piss on a gravesite flag, and claim not to be disrespecting it, but rather that I was simply trying to clean dirt off of it, I'm disrespecting the flag.

If one shows disrespect during the national anthem, he is disrespecting our national anthem. Now he can claim a different intention, but it does not change the actual fact of his action.
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It's much more disrespectful to shame and hate him for protesting.
It's actually more disrespectful to not call it what it is.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 6:22 am to
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The teams are looking for the commissioner to enforce the policies that are already in place.


As a complete cop out

Again, the teams are in complete control of punishing their players if they so choose
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