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Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:47 pm to EKG
quote:The press was told something that was untrue the day before. It was either a lie or a poor assumption. Not sure why you should find anything wrong with that exchange except for Sarah being condescending.
That's not true, JuiceTerry.
This exchange from yesterday's briefing is the perfect example of the attack/non-question approach now employed by many in the WH Press Corps.
The whole circus has become a pointless waste of time.
Sarah Huckabee Sanders v Jonathan Karl
Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:52 pm to Revelator
quote:Well I didn't suggest that
To even suggest that because a few In the press corp on occasion complained about the Obama administration not being transparent enough is somehow on par
quote:And what "venom" are you referring to in relation to the press Corps and briefings. A lot of venom is spewed at Trump, but we are discussing something specific so anything outside of it is irrelevant.
daily venom spewd at Trump is absurd and complete BS like I've already stated. There is no comparison.
Besides, do you not find it odd that when Trump makes a controversial decision, giving his communications staff little forewarning, then contradicts some of their statements (and others) in his own interview, that maybe it makes the Press Secretary's job a bit harder? And just like a trial lawyer questioning a struggling witness, just like with all the others, just asking question, like usual, seems a lot more domineering.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:55 pm to mmcgrath
His "I have a right to three different questions, following my minute-long speech" attitude rubbed me the wrong way.
Multiply that entitlement by each of those goons, and the entire production is a side show.
They appear to be looking to censure the President more than gather facts to report.
Just one opinion.
Multiply that entitlement by each of those goons, and the entire production is a side show.
They appear to be looking to censure the President more than gather facts to report.
Just one opinion.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:57 pm to buckeye_vol
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Besides, do you not find it odd that when Trump makes a controversial decision, giving his communications staff little forewarning, then contradicts some of their statements (and others) in his own interview, that maybe it makes the Press Secretary's job a bit harder? And just like a trial lawyer questioning a struggling witness, just like with all the others, just asking question, like usual, seems a lot more domineering.
I'm not a Trump advocate, but simply saying the level of vitriol against Trump is staggering. He gets it from every media and Hollywood entity 24-7.
Does he bring some of this derision on himself by his comments and tweeting, yes.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:02 pm to Revelator
quote:But we're not talking about them; I know that they do that. We're talking specifically about the press Corps. And in this case, they've put out contradicting narratives, so Spicer had struggled trying to keep it straight.
I'm not a Trump advocate, but simply saying the level of vitriol against Trump is staggering. He gets it from every media and Hollywood entity 24-7.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:04 pm to EKG
quote:Well if they are all going on 3 minute diatribes, then that's much better for the Press Secretary and the White House since fewer questions makes it easier and with less risk of any problematic responses.
His "I have a right to three different questions, following my minute-long speech" attitude rubbed me the wrong way.
Multiply that entitlement by each of those goons, and the entire production is a side show.
They appear to be looking to censure the President more than gather facts to report.
Just one opinion.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:05 pm to KCT
If reporters do not get to ask questions, the internet will make up answers,
and The Donald will lose the twitter war.
and The Donald will lose the twitter war.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:23 pm to KCT
Trump needs to realize that he is at war. He needs to win the war by any means necessary.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:33 pm to Champagne
He should start by not undermining his own team over and over
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:35 pm to KCT
I like it, but I still want a 100 day state of the nation fireside address by POTUS. To dispel all of the BS, call them out by name, list and reasons for obstruction of legislation and detailed reasoning for course of action...maybe 1/2 hour every 100 days or so.
Then hold a follow-up press conference a week later for Spicer and company to address 10 questions and call it a day.
Then hold a follow-up press conference a week later for Spicer and company to address 10 questions and call it a day.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:45 pm to Toddy
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Well it would help them keep their lies straight without fear of contradicting one another. Of course, when Trump comes out the following day and completely contradicts whatever his spokespeople said the day before, it's the same difference. It does save his spokespeople some embarrassment though of having to explain the pivots (lies).
Newt has lost it. He will say later that he was joking.
if you deny the press q & A you will be fair game in a way you have never seen in the USA. it cannot be done. It will not be done.
Newt is trying to make an omelet from broken eggs. Nice try. Utter failure though.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:47 pm to Toddy
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Well it would help them keep their lies straight without fear of contradicting one another.
name one the media didn't make up?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:51 pm to ApexTiger
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name one the media didn't make up?
you missed a couple of days, didn't you?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:53 pm to gthog61
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That pussy that obama had wouldn't last one day in a hostile environment such as this.
The premise that the two are equivalent is absurd.
You guys aren't even trying to pretend like you aren't little crybaby snowflakes anymore.
The idea that the press is being hostile is fricking ridiculous. These aren't gotcha questions. This is basic shite like, "Why did the president fire the FBI director?" And they can't even get their story straight on that? Did Trump and/or Spicer not think that question was going to come up?
Even ignoring the dishonesty of it all, the incompetence it takes for them to frick up so bad on simple shite like this alone should be enough to convince any reasonable person that this White House is the most dysfunctional and unfit group in modern history.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:56 pm to skiptumahloo
quote:
this White House is the most dysfunctional and unfit group in modern history.
the right wing is trained to think everyone is picking on them.
quote:
This is basic shite like, "Why did the president fire the FBI director?" And they can't even get their story straight on that? Did Trump and/or Spicer not think that question was going to come up?
I think that sometimes Trump changes his mind on something after he finds out how the press reacts to what he tells Spicer to say.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:59 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
Well if a member of the press Corp can bring down an administration from some questioning, then that administration probably deserved to be brought down.
Besides I thought we are all about the "alpha" mentality? Running away from some journalists and their questioning is quote the opposite of alpha.
Lots of acting though, then running away when it gets tough.
Journalists are supposed to seek the truth and report the facts. It has become so blatantly biased that it is pointless to answer questions from people uninterested in the truth.
Time is valuable and should not be wasted answering questions from people uninterested in reporting the truth and the facts.
Revoke press passes from journalists who have become unprofessional. This will wake up the remaining journalists, and maybe they will focus on the truth.
Posted on 5/13/17 at 12:58 am to djmicrobe
quote:You talk about truth, then resort to a bunch of conjecture and subjectivity without a single fact, and it all just conveniently supports the supports the side that is consent with your position in previous posts.
Journalists are supposed to seek the truth and report the facts. It has become so blatantly biased that it is pointless to answer questions from people uninterested in the truth.
This post was edited on 5/13/17 at 1:00 am
Posted on 5/13/17 at 1:02 am to buckeye_vol
quote:
And it was well known that the Press Corps, and the Obama administration had a lot of conflict due to the lack of transparency.
That's just it though, the media wasn't willing to piss off their pied piper like they have Trump. Didn't want to make him look controversial like they have Trump.
I believe you already knew this though. You're an intelligent guy.
Posted on 5/13/17 at 1:13 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:Maybe not, but I'm talking specifically about the press Corps though. I mean Jake Tapper was pretty hard on them when he was in it, but now that he works for CNN, he's somehow the opposite of what his journalistic history suggests.
That's just it though, the media wasn't willing to piss off their pied piper like they have Trump. Didn't want to make him look controversial like they have Trump.
So I'm not defending the entire media, just those in the press corps, and the unique dynamic of their job, especially with an administration.
And it was obviously a tough few days for anyone who had to face the Corps, and much of that is one the administration itself.
Frankly, Comey getting fired may be the focus, but I think the White House's lack of preparation and conflicting narratives shows some real organizational issues. So it's weak to run away from the press Corps when they brought a lot of it on themselves.
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