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re: Newly Released Peter Strzok Doc
Posted on 8/8/25 at 12:10 pm to the808bass
Posted on 8/8/25 at 12:10 pm to the808bass
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He’s relegated his forum role to intellectual tar baby.
And yet, the crucial questions keep being avoided like the plague.
Here is your chance:
When all of those underlings can present their subjective, opinion-based analysis to POTUS, what commits him to adopting that as his subjective, opinion-based analysis?
And when his subjective, opinion-based analysis differs and he orders them to craft that analysis, as head of the agency, it's their job to do this, correct?
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Posted on 8/8/25 at 12:11 pm to moneyg
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Bookmarked.
Feel free. If they get the shot to prosecute Obama for his behavior from July 2016 until Trump's inauguration, it will be in about 2028-30
And that's not counting the post conviction appeals process.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 12:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If they get the shot to prosecute Obama for his behavior from July 2016 until Trump's inauguration, it will be in about 2028-30
You should be well over a couple million posts by then.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 12:15 pm to AlterEd
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Oh he's officially changed his stance from, "this never happened. Prove it." to "ok, so it happened but it wasn't illegal."
Half a million posts from this douchebag.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 12:17 pm to VoxDawg
Posted on 8/8/25 at 12:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
Dumb as a brick. And twice as arrogant. Deadly combo
Posted on 8/8/25 at 12:19 pm to texag7
They should go after everyone with a license to practice law. File complaints with the bar. This is how you start to make the dominoes fall
Posted on 8/8/25 at 12:23 pm to michael corleone
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They should go after everyone with a license to practice law. File complaints with the bar. This is how you start to make the dominoes fall
Fake discount divorce lawyers are safe in this scenario.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 12:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What sort of so-called “lawyer” thinks it legal for the president to order the FBI and intelligence community to fabricate false intel
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That's a framing that I did not use.
Here’s your exact words….
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Effectively. If it's not a crime for the President to do this, then how could criminal liability flow to those following those non-illegal orders?
Posted on 8/8/25 at 12:29 pm to Darth_Vader
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Here’s your exact words….
You didn't post them all, and don't know what "if" means.
Here is the full post:
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Effectively. If it's not a crime for the President to do this, then how could criminal liability flow to those following those non-illegal orders?
This is where the opinions, subjectivity, etc. of intelligence come into play, as well as the power of the head of the executive agency. This isn't even a comment on immunity.
So the first part you quoted assumes it's not a crime (that's what the word "if" means)
The 2nd part is a completely different framing than what you posted. Here you can compare them:
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for the president to order the FBI and intelligence community to fabricate false intel
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This is where the opinions, subjectivity, etc. of intelligence come into play, as well as the power of the head of the executive agency.
The President having a different opinion than the opinions in a report he was given is not "fabricating intelligence".
As I said, the framing you used is not the framing I used.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 12:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Obama ordering this may insulate the people under him from criminal liability.
Does an illegal act become legal if directed by one who holds higher rank?
Posted on 8/8/25 at 12:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The President having a different opinion than the opinions in a report he was given is not "fabricating intelligence".
A report known to be fabricated by the DNC?
Posted on 8/8/25 at 12:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Ah yes, the ole Nuremberg defense.
Obama ordering this may insulate the people under him from criminal liability.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 12:34 pm to BugAC
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Does an illegal act become legal if directed by one who holds higher rank?
2 things. First, you're assuming the illegality when my post did not
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The question is based around what criminal liability exists from that direction by the POTUS.
Second, the President is permitted to act in ways that would be illegal for anyone else to copy. The point of the portion you quoted was expanding on that and postulating that those following these Exclusively Presidentially Legal™ orders would also be insulated from criminal liability (as the underlying action was "legal" for the President).
Posted on 8/8/25 at 12:34 pm to BugAC
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Does an illegal act become legal if directed by one who holds higher rank?
Let's ask the Nazis who worked at the camps.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 12:35 pm to BugAC
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Does an illegal act become legal if directed by one who holds higher rank?
Notice how the SCOTUS Presidential Immunity case drove liberals to throw off the mask and immediately go to the hypotheticals where POTUS uses a SEAL Team to assassinate their political rivals?
Inside every liberal is a totalitarian dying to get out.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 12:35 pm to BugAC
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A report known to be fabricated by the DNC?
-known
+suspected
Posted on 8/8/25 at 12:36 pm to VoxDawg
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Notice how the SCOTUS Presidential Immunity case drove liberals to throw off the mask and immediately go to the hypotheticals where POTUS uses a SEAL Team to assassinate their political rivals?
Inside every liberal is a totalitarian dying to get out.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 12:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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-known
+suspected
Posted on 8/8/25 at 12:40 pm to NC_Tigah
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Ah yes, the ole Nuremberg defense.
The left truly are the nazis
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