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re: New York Giving Away Food
Posted on 8/19/25 at 8:48 am to Klark Kent
Posted on 8/19/25 at 8:48 am to Klark Kent
quote:It is still subsidized, as most food is.
no, no they don’t. My family buys our food out of our bank account from H-E-B.
quote:I'm glad your parents were good to you as you are to your children. We will always disagree, but respect your opinion.
My Father worked 60+ hours a week and my Mother worked 40+ hours a week to put me through a private school. They had to buy a lunch plan out of pocket, non tax payer funded. They worked and saved money before having me and my brothers. None of which was via government funded social safety nets.
My wife and I also both work. We are putting our kids through private school. We pay for that. Not anyone else. We were financially comfortable before bringing children into the world and just expecting someone else to pay for it.
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Posted on 8/19/25 at 8:49 am to Klark Kent
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Public school is an investment we all make because an uneducated population is a hell of a lot more expensive to deal with than funding schools. Higher crime, higher poverty, lower innovation, weaker economy—all the fun stuff.
Then, if research shows that subsidized lunches at school lead to better outcomes, how is this not the exact same argument for providing that? If kids going hungry because of shitty parents leads to lower focus, more aggression, worse health outcomes, why not provide lunch?
Posted on 8/19/25 at 8:50 am to Riverside
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This country has gone to hell. Schools should not be handing out free breakfast and lunch. It breeds a culture of dependency and entitlement.
Lunch should be free for kids in school. It should be a healthy and nutritious meal but we all pay enough in taxes to feed students while they’re at school.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 8:52 am to Ingeniero
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If kids going hungry because of shitty parents leads to lower focus, more aggression, worse health outcomes, why not provide lunch?
again, the parents of children at these schools are being provided taxpayer subsidized food, i.e. EBT. Are they not? Now you want to double dip?
This post was edited on 8/19/25 at 8:53 am
Posted on 8/19/25 at 8:57 am to BuckI
quote:
If you do not like the current setup, then make the 1% pay it.
The only possibly options you can think of are:
A.) Make someone else pay for it.
B.) Make someone else pay for it.
How telling that these aren't even an option in your mind:
1.) The parents should be responsible for their own children
2.) Don't have children if you can't afford them
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:00 am to Smeg
quote:
How telling that these aren't even an option in your mind: 1.) The parents should be responsible for their own children 2.) Don't have children if you can't afford them
who knew this was such a difficult concept!
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:03 am to Klark Kent
quote:
again, the parents of children at these schools are being provided taxpayer subsidized food, i.e. EBT. Are they not? Now you want to double dip?
Yes, because my argument is totally separate from EBT/SNAP. In fact I'd argue it's better to have schoolwide free meals rather than just subsidizing it for low income kids. That way we're not picking and choosing who has to pay. Michelle Obama's school lunch revamp was a disaster. Now that we have competent leadership, I want my taxes to go towards a healthy school lunch for everyone.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:04 am to Smeg
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How telling that these aren't even an option in your mind: 1.) The parents should be responsible for their own children 2.) Don't have children if you can't afford them
Sounds great. Doesn’t work.
Your only real options are:
1.) tell them to handle it themselves and deal with the fallout. IE getting carjacked by their offspring
2.) try to fill in to make the kids life less shitty so they grow up and escape poverty and stupidity
3.) forced sterilization
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:05 am to Ingeniero
quote:
Yes, because my argument is totally separate from EBT/SNAP. In fact I'd argue it's better to have schoolwide free meals rather than just subsidizing it for low income kids. That way we're not picking and choosing who has to pay. Michelle Obama's school lunch revamp was a disaster. Now that we have competent leadership, I want my taxes to go towards a healthy school lunch for everyone.
I could get behind that if it was universal for all schools and all children and not just subsidizing the dregs of society to further suck at the taxpayer nipple.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:08 am to Klark Kent
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I could get behind that if it was universal for all schools and all children and not just subsidizing the dregs of society to further suck at the taxpayer nipple.
I think that's a fair compromise
Of the studies I've read, you get better outcomes when it's universal rather than means-tested. It makes sense. In fact, you're sowing division because now some kids are getting free lunches while the "privileged" class is paying for it.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:10 am to Ingeniero
exactly
it’s gross this way. I cannot imagine my father and mother, or grandfather and grandmother bringing children into this world knowing they couldn’t provide for them. Meanwhile, we’re expected to pick up the bill for generations of those who never even considered personal responsibility.
it’s gross this way. I cannot imagine my father and mother, or grandfather and grandmother bringing children into this world knowing they couldn’t provide for them. Meanwhile, we’re expected to pick up the bill for generations of those who never even considered personal responsibility.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:11 am to billjamin
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We already cover transportation and the actual education itself. I don’t have a problem feeding children. If you do then that’s fine.
If a parent isn't willing/able to feed his kids, the child shouldn't be left in his care.
This is a case of lefties wanting to ignore a real problem by solving the symptom.
Shame on you.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:14 am to jmarto1
quote:
I'd rather see out kids go to school and have healthy, breakfast and lunches available to them
I'd rather have parents feed and love their kids, send them to school, and support their learning and education.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:14 am to billjamin
quote:
Your only real options are:
1.) tell them to handle it themselves and deal with the fallout. IE getting carjacked by their offspring
... We're already getting carjacked by their offspring even WITH these types of programs
quote:
2.) try to fill in to make the kids life less shitty so they grow up and escape poverty and stupidity
... How's that working for you? Have they escaped poverty or embraced dependence?
quote:
3.) forced sterilization
Perhaps benefits should be conditional. After the first child you can't afford, any benefits come with mandated reversible sterilization. If you can self support / get off benefits - you can have the arm implant removed. If you don't want it, then you get no benefits, even for child #1.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:17 am to mwade91383
quote:
Because they can’t afford it. Do you think poor people don’t exist? But whatever, I’ll bite. let’s say they do have money but they’re drug addicts, abusive, mental health cases, whatever.
How is any of that the kids fault? Do you think they don’t deserve to eat lunch at school based on that?
This fricker would be absolutely ok with the child being left in the care of these parents.
You are a terrible person. You are ok with abuse as long as you can pretend all is well and the child is fed. Congrats.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:26 am to Ingeniero
quote:
Yes, because my argument is totally separate from EBT/SNAP. In fact I'd argue it's better to have schoolwide free meals rather than just subsidizing it for low income kids. That way we're not picking and choosing who has to pay. Michelle Obama's school lunch revamp was a disaster. Now that we have competent leadership, I want my taxes to go towards a healthy school lunch for everyone.
It's crazy to me that people like you are so accepting of society being unable to perform the literal most basic task related to individual responsibility.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:27 am to Smeg
Of those 2 options, which one is the kids fault?
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:30 am to moneyg
quote:
his fricker would be absolutely ok with the child being left in the care of these parents. You are a terrible person. You are ok with abuse as long as you can pretend all is well and the child is fed. Congrats.
The fact that this is the conclusion you gleaned from the discourse is painfully telling.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:34 am to mwade91383
quote:
The fact that this is the conclusion you gleaned from the discourse is painfully telling.
It's exactly what is going on.
Instead of protecting these kids and requiring parents to do the "bare minimum" you instead want the government to step in so you can pretend you are doing something.
You aren't even willing to force parents to feed their kids. FFS. What's left? Allowing parents to kill their kids?
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:36 am to Smeg
Just remember, Biden (his handlers) wanted to withhold lunch money for schools that didn't allow boys in girls bathrooms or play girls sports.
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