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re: New WSJ/NBC Poll: Biden Landslide Coming, Up 14 Points

Posted on 10/4/20 at 9:09 am to
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/4/20 at 9:09 am to
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Clinton Holds 11-Point National Lead Over Trump: NBC/WSJ Poll NBC headline Oct 16 2016


Looks like they’re going with the same formula.
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
3263 posts
Posted on 10/4/20 at 9:10 am to
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but Trump turned off a lot of undecided Karens in swing states who vote on pure emotions with his terrible debate performance.


This was concluded after you did you’re internal polling?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72156 posts
Posted on 10/4/20 at 9:51 am to
I honestly believe Biden will win, but it is not at a +14 point difference.

Was Clinton even that wide of a spread?

ETA: Just saw that Clinton was at +11. There is no way Biden is higher than that.

Also, the gambling circuits are much, much closer than Trump/Clinton was.

Biden is at about 1/2 of what they initially favored Clinton at.
This post was edited on 10/4/20 at 9:52 am
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 10/4/20 at 9:52 am to
Scruffy needs to have a little faith.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72156 posts
Posted on 10/4/20 at 9:55 am to
Scruffy is a pessimist at heart.

Assume the worst and get surprised if it is the opposite.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/4/20 at 9:55 am to
I think so too.

It will be very close but some of these states that Trump won...AZ, NC, MI, WI, PA...will flip back to the Democrats I think. And I don’t think he flips other states such as MN.
Posted by Dayman
Member since Sep 2015
713 posts
Posted on 10/4/20 at 9:58 am to
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It’ll be D+4 like 2016 at worst.


Do you have a source for dem turnout being +4 in 2016? I have been looking for a stat like this since last week.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 10/4/20 at 10:01 am to
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It will be very close but some of these states that Trump won...AZ, NC, MI, WI, PA...will flip back to the Democrats I think. And I don’t think he flips other states such as MN.



The funny thing is that I truly believe he wins Florida by a larger margin than 2016. He still carries AZ and NC.
Ohio and Iowa he dominates again and they solidify as solid red states.

He wins PA. He isn't going to win WI, Mi, Pa all again just one of them.

He isn't flipping NV or MN
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 10/4/20 at 10:03 am to
You think he’s winning AZ and PA?
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/4/20 at 10:06 am to
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He wins PA. He isn't going to win WI, Mi, Pa all again just one of them.
I agree with all of your post with one exception, maybe two.

Of PA, WI, MI I think he wins PA and WI.

I also think he has a great chance to win MN
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30201 posts
Posted on 10/4/20 at 10:06 am to
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MN

Lotta people downplay it, but MN is the one state of consequence where he will actually make it on the ballot. In this particular race, who knows, that could make a difference.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 10/4/20 at 10:07 am to
Yes.

His Latino support in Florida and Arizona is very real and it's going to exceed 2016. That will negate any white suburban women vote he loses in AZ specifically. It will be close though.

PA he has a much better chance of winning of the 3 blue Midwest because of the voter registration the GOP has done and PA has the most rural/working class vote he can win over to offset suburban voting.

WI, Mi, Pa will all be super super close again but I feel that PA is his best bet.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29932 posts
Posted on 10/4/20 at 10:07 am to
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Clinton Holds 11-Point National Lead Over Trump: NBC/WSJ Poll


NBC headline Oct 16 2016


Lol. That’s awesome. Lefties are going to be so let down again.
Posted by boomtown143
Merica
Member since May 2019
6709 posts
Posted on 10/4/20 at 10:07 am to
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I honestly believe Biden will win, but it is not at a +14 point difference.


I bet you were sayin the same in 2016 with Hillary.

STOP LETTING THE MEDIA AND THEIR POLLS PERSUADE YOU! TRUMP WILL WIN!
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
45333 posts
Posted on 10/4/20 at 10:09 am to
Well I hope you’re right.

I think his chances in WI are better than PA but I would love to see the republican ground game pull it off.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99023 posts
Posted on 10/4/20 at 10:10 am to
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Scruffy is a pessimist at heart.

Assume the worst and get surprised if it is the opposite


Scruffy and udtiger would get along swimmingly.
Posted by Skeezer
Member since Apr 2017
2296 posts
Posted on 10/4/20 at 10:11 am to
If you think trump is going to win- you are blind and crazy
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72156 posts
Posted on 10/4/20 at 10:11 am to
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I bet you were sayin the same in 2016 with Hillary.

I was.

I was pleasantly surprised though.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72156 posts
Posted on 10/4/20 at 10:13 am to
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If you think trump is going to win- you are blind and crazy
I don’t think he will win, but y’all were equally as confident in 2016.

I could probably find articles saying that exact same thing back in 2016.

I’m just a pessimist.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/4/20 at 10:13 am to
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If you think trump is going to win- you are blind and crazy

did you bring this out of your historical dustbin from 2016?
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