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re: New tax proposal, do the number for yourself WRT your situation

Posted on 11/2/17 at 5:30 pm to
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25624 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 5:30 pm to
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So then, right now is the time to purchase or refinance on any mortgage exceeding $500k up to $1Million?


Assuming this goes to law as proposed you would want to lock in a loan for anything more than 500K now (since even a 2m loan would still see the 500-1m benefit) versus waiting until after the first year it is in effect.
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 5:51 pm to
It looks like I’ll pay a few hundred less, which is cool.

Look, I think Trump is an idiot, but I have no problem with the reform. I also know he had nothing to do with it, other than putting his name on it, but that’s the same with any president.

Looks like they’ve stayed away from removing the mortgage deductions which is a big deal for me. Plus the death tax stuff is good for me, god forbid.

I do think my parents might pay a bit more. They’re above the property tax threshold, and can’t take all the deductions because of retirement shite. However the new higher standard deduction might make it a wash for them.

Overall, I think it’s just a shuffling of tax law for us middle class folks. Rich folks who itemize here in CA will likely pay more, but I’m ok with that.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19066 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 5:53 pm to
running the rough numbers it appears I'll save about 6100 - 6500 bucks.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123895 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 6:33 pm to
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There has been a lot of discussion about this but until you do the numbers for yourself don't let anyone tell you if it is good or bad for you.
We'll end up paying much more. Despite that, I expect with market effects, our ATI will rise nicely.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 6:42 pm to
Mine's easy, rate lower, double the std deduction, didn't mess with the 401k treatment
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25624 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 6:49 pm to
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We'll end up paying much more. Despite that, I expect with market effects, our ATI will rise nicely.


The issue is will the companies take the "extra money" and do capital investment and grow jobs or will they be cautious (since you never know what a future administration will do) and horde the money or pay it out to execs. Also on the repatriation side will they move the money and let it sit or will they actually put it to work and build the greater economy. IMO it works on paper and has a decent chance to succeed but it could also go horribly wrong and leave us in a huge tax revenue whole. I am cautiously optimistic though.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25624 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 6:51 pm to
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double the std deduction,


Take note you lose exemptions though which does a lot to offset the std deduction. You also have to consider any possible child credits and how the different caps impact that.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123895 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 6:54 pm to
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The issue is will the companies take the "extra money" and do capital investment and grow jobs or will they be cautious
Regardless, PE ratios will change (and stock prices should follow)
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 8:56 am to
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So you are suggesting that people should wait until the law is already passed to decide if it is good or bad for them? That seems odd for someone on a politics forum.


Yes, that is what I'm suggesting. Nothing you do will sway these congressional reps one way or the other. I have already made my voice heard at the ballot box.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19698 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 9:04 am to
Looks like I would save about $5k.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14491 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 9:49 am to
Or I could wait until the various interest groups develop the calculators for me.

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