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re: New Survey Shows 75 Percent of Graduating College Students Have Yet to Secure a Job
Posted on 5/3/25 at 6:46 pm to _Hurricane_
Posted on 5/3/25 at 6:46 pm to _Hurricane_
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A lot of older people on here think way too highly of themselves and think it’s just the same as when they were coming up.
I still meet guys in their 50s who have extremely poor computer skills despite working in an office environment for twice the amount of time that I have.
There are a lot of dumb asses with good jobs.
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 6:47 pm to ChatGPT of LA
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This isn't new. No one in my generation knew what life held after graduation.
I don't think a lot of people realize how circuitous some of our career paths have been. I think a lot of people talk about Gen X as if we're boomers who largely often stayed in the same jobs for 40 years.
Gen X wasn't as transient as current job holders are, but sheesh, if you look at me from Age 20, and I listed 6 basic careers with 4 of them being the ones I've been in, you'd NEVER fricking figure out which 4 because there's effectively no logical path between them.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 6:47 pm to Powerman
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There are a lot of dumb asses with good jobs.
How do I get to be one of them?
Posted on 5/3/25 at 6:47 pm to NashvilleTider
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If your kid is in a major like law - coding copywriting - they are screwed. In fact most of us are screwed Ai will take every job that uses a computer in two years.
Depends on the law job
As I've posted for years on the subject, the law jobs most likely to be tacked first are actually the most advanced and prestigious of the legal jobs. Also for day to day management of the business of a law firm, The ones who adapt and utilize AI faster and better are going to have a huge edge and long term advantage. Again, the more prestigious and bigger firms are going to have the most difficulty because changing the inertia of a large office in bureaucracy is exponentially harder than a small one.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 6:48 pm to BigD43
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How do I get to be one of them?
Be born in the '50s or '60s
Posted on 5/3/25 at 6:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Hung a sign giving green stamps for your divorce cases?
Correct
Why I made a major transition a few years ago
Posted on 5/3/25 at 6:59 pm to Diamondawg
No started doing more of them. AI can't replace divorce lawyers as long as people are so insane about their divorces.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 7:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Be born in the '50s or '60s
Or 70s
In my industry I'd say at least 70% of the high level jobs that are held by people 55 years or older could be better done by someone in the 35-45 range.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 7:02 pm to Powerman
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I still meet guys in their 50s who have extremely poor computer skills despite working in an office environment for twice the amount of time that I have.
I'm a guy in his 50s who is one of those who absolutely REFUSES to fall behind. In my organization, I'm EASILY top 1% in overall computer skills other than the specific computer geeks. That said, you're correct, a shite ton my age seem to refuse to even be solidly up to date on using Word/Excel, etc.
HOWEVER. To me, the strangest thing I've seen in organizations over recent years is the REMARKABLE lack of computer skill among recent college graduates. It baffles me. In this age where virtually zero assignments are turned in handwritten or even typed, how in the frick are people graduating college with really no fricking idea at all of what Word can do? No idea at all of what Excel can do? Visio? And on and on.
It's like somewhere along the line, we switched from "generation familiar with computers" to "generation that basically knows how to use Snapchat, Discord, TikTok better than 50 year olds but little else".
I'd say in my org, the average 24 year and average 50 year old have roughly the same MS Office capabilities. Got help them if they have analyze data on their own in Excel without the benefit of some off the shelf system that does it for them.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 7:03 pm to Grumpy Nemesis
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Frankly the big problem this generation is having has more to do with their socialization than anything else.
While the job market is slowing, the above is definitely a factor.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 7:04 pm to NashvilleTider
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This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 12:33 am
Posted on 5/3/25 at 7:07 pm to the808bass
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While the job market is slowing, the above is definitely a factor.
And, you can't talk to them about it because their response 100% of the time is to simply dismiss it as "old guy talking" shite.
Which frankly, is fair because it's always been common but in this, there really are many things that young people are just completely uncomfortable doing that were completely natural to a generation of people who actually SPOKE to other human beings they were in the room with(rather than perpetually texting)
Posted on 5/3/25 at 7:09 pm to Grumpy Nemesis
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HOWEVER. To me, the strangest thing I've seen in organizations over recent years is the REMARKABLE lack of computer skill among recent college graduates. It baffles me. In this age where virtually zero assignments are turned in handwritten or even typed, how in the frick are people graduating college with really no fricking idea at all of what Word can do? No idea at all of what Excel can do? Visio? And on and on.
I'm guessing reliance on phones.
Reminds me of the joke about millennials having "laptop tasks"
Posted on 5/3/25 at 7:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I'm guessing reliance on phones.
Reminds me of the joke about millennials having "laptop tasks"
I think you're correct.
I think it's fair to say the kid who graduated college in 2010 were FAR more computer savvy than those that graduated this year.
Computer literacy honestly seems to be backtracking and until companies start using the Apple Playstore for their primary applications...........
Posted on 5/3/25 at 7:14 pm to Grumpy Nemesis
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Which frankly, is fair because it's always been common but in this, there really are many things that young people are just completely uncomfortable doing that were completely natural to a generation of people who actually SPOKE to other human beings they were in the room with(rather than perpetually texting)
I know a kid who is trying to land a job in a technical field. He’s plenty bright. He’s passed a couple of certifications. He’s a good communicator. He just refuses to do the legwork to get a job. He’s almost a year into the job search.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 7:14 pm to Grumpy Nemesis
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HOWEVER. To me, the strangest thing I've seen in organizations over recent years is the REMARKABLE lack of computer skill among recent college graduates.
In retrospect it's surprising to me how little microsoft office outside of word for writing essays was used in college when I was there.
We used research software like Matlab but I think I only used one class in engineering (an industrial engineering class) that used excel.
I guess they figure they're there to teach the theory and you can figure out the office suite once you get into the work force. I do think that it would be beneficial to have a required microsoft office class for just about all majors.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 7:18 pm to Grumpy Nemesis
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This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 12:34 am
Posted on 5/3/25 at 7:18 pm to Powerman
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I guess they figure they're there to teach the theory and you can figure out the office suite once you get into the work force. I do think that it would be beneficial to have a required microsoft office class for just about all majors.
When I left my last organization(on good terms.......had solid relocation opportunity), my lead program director did an exit interview with me. He asked me if I had any suggestions for how to improve the organization. I said, that's easy. Require every last person on the floor of the Program office to attend one 40hr week of Word, Excel and PowerPoint training. I said you have no idea how many hours are murdered on the floor by people fighting with Word formatting when doing contract work, failing miserably to analyze large data dumps because they don't REALLY know how to use Excel or even taking 5 times as long to prepare the briefing because they can't fricking use PowerPoint. for shite.
I said, "your analysts are spending less than half their time ACTUALLY ANALYZING!"
Posted on 5/3/25 at 7:21 pm to conservativewifeymom
As high school neared its end for my 3 kids, I told them they had three choices once they graduated.
A) Military; not a bad deal with the GI Bill, assistance with housing and a monthly check starting at age 38. Still plenty of time to start a second career while drawing a monthly government check.
B) An entry level job at an industry, with the opportunity to advance.
C) College, in pursuit of a degree that would lead to a career, and immediate employment.
My first two have been gainfully employed since graduating high school. My daughter ( no pics) will graduate in July and already has a job.
A) Military; not a bad deal with the GI Bill, assistance with housing and a monthly check starting at age 38. Still plenty of time to start a second career while drawing a monthly government check.
B) An entry level job at an industry, with the opportunity to advance.
C) College, in pursuit of a degree that would lead to a career, and immediate employment.
My first two have been gainfully employed since graduating high school. My daughter ( no pics) will graduate in July and already has a job.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 7:25 pm to Perfect Circle
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My first two have been gainfully employed since graduating high school. My daughter ( no pics) will graduate in July and already has a job.
Ya know. THIS is a biggie too.
I am completely amazed at how many recent college grads I bump in to in the application pool where they are literally applying for THEIR FIRST JOB.
Not first "real" job or first job in the career field.
FIRST frickING JOB PERIOD!!!
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