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re: New subtle phrase being used to call for the assassination of the President of the US

Posted on 5/4/25 at 6:28 pm to
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 6:28 pm to
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In the land of looney, you want to outlaw free speech and also lock up those who disagree with you…okay Stalin.


Calling for the assassination of the President doesn’t fall under the “free speech” umbrella, and the psychos who do it and/or encourage it belong in a camp for the mentally ill.

See ya.
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 6:37 pm to
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Calling for the assassination of the President doesn’t fall under the “free speech” umbrella

Certainly posting 8647 does fall under freedom of speech, but reporting them puts them on the secret service radar and they can be monitored.
Posted by tigerfromathens
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 6:37 pm to
Saying you hope somebody dies falls under free speech. And I'm sure camps have been historically used by fair leaders to silence the other side, totally not Stalin and Hitler.
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 6:38 pm to
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Are you serious Clarke? Words…freaking words and you want to contact Federal law enforcement due to offensive words? GTFO you looney.


I bet when Trump told the crowd to “protest peacefully and patriotically” you thought he was leading an overthrow of the government and was guilty of “treason.”
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 6:54 pm to
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Calling for the assassination of the President doesn’t fall under the “free speech” umbrella,
But they didn't say that. They said 8647. I'm sure that's what some mean, 86 means cut an item from the menu, but 86 also commonly refers to ejecting a customer from the premises, and taken in the context used (directed toward a person and not an item) it doesn't take a leap of logic to just as easily, if not even more easily, infer it as meaning 'eject trump from office.'
Posted by LsuTool
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 6:57 pm to
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:12 pm to
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but 86 also commonly refers to ejecting a customer from the premises


No it doesn’t.

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it doesn't take a leap of logic to just as easily, if not even more easily, infer it as meaning 'eject trump from office.'


Given they’ve already tried to kill him twice (that we know of), and don’t have a majority in either chamber, I think it’s much easier to take no leaps at all and allow their prior words and actions to speak for themselves.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:13 pm to
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Saying you hope somebody dies falls under free speech.


Maybe, but that’s not what they’re saying. 86 is a verb.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:15 pm to
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Certainly posting 8647 does fall under freedom of speech


Speaking code for “kill the president” is still saying “kill the president.” That is absolutely not protected under free speech.

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The Supreme Court has established that speech inciting imminent lawless action, including violence or assassination, is not protected if it is directed at inciting or producing such action and is likely to produce it (Brandenburg v. Ohio, 1969). Threats against the President are also specifically criminalized under federal law (18 U.S.C. § 871), which prohibits knowingly and willfully making threats to kill or harm the President. Such speech is considered a “true threat,” which the First Amendment does not protect (Watts v. United States, 1969).
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:17 pm to
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but 86 also commonly refers to ejecting a customer from the premises


No it doesn’t.
This isn't even worth arguing so I'll just hand this one off to grok

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is 86 commonly used to mean eject a customer?

Yes, "86" is commonly used in the restaurant and bar industry to mean ejecting a customer, particularly when they’re disruptive or unwelcome. For example, staff might say, “86 that drunk guy,” to indicate removing them. While it also means running out of an item (e.g., “86 the soup”), its use for ejecting customers is widespread in hospitality settings, especially in the U.S.
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:19 pm to
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Speaking code for “kill the president” is still saying “kill the president.” That is absolutely not protected under free speech.

8647
Good luck convicting me.
Posted by beaux duke
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:21 pm to

that is impossibly awful
i can only image the hicks that think that's good music
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:24 pm to
“86” is also used in the military — or least in the Marine Corp — as slang for 1) rescinding a previous order or 2) disposing of some item:

“The CO 86’d our leave privileges after last night’s bar fight….”

“86 that broken collimator….”
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:25 pm to
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Certainly posting 8647 does fall under freedom of speech, but reporting them puts them on the secret service radar and they can be monitored.
depends on your political affiliation. Kathy Griffin held up a severed head of Trump and nothing was done
Posted by MasterDigger
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:27 pm to
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but 86 also commonly refers to ejecting a customer from the premises
Tuscaloosa:
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No it doesn’t.


Family Guy says you're as wrong as the father listed on your birth certificate

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Posted by SwampMonster
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:43 pm to
Imagine that…you cite Watts vs US in your post yet have no clue what the USSC ruled on it!

The USSC agreed with Watts’s counsel’s characterization of Watts’s speech as “a kind of very crude offensive method of stating a political opposition to the President” that did not qualify as a true threat.

Justice William O. Douglas concurred in an opinion that would have gone further than the per curiam majority opinion and invalidated the federal statute.

“Suppression of speech as an effective police measure is an old, old device, outlawed by our Constitution,” he concluded.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:02 pm to
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The USSC agreed with Watts’s counsel’s characterization of Watts’s speech as “a kind of very crude offensive method of stating a political opposition to the President” that did not qualify as a true threat.


It looks like the reason Watts was quoted by Grok was to bring up USSC establishment of “true threat” doctrine for context of the discussion. “True threat” would obviously vary case by case.

The topic of this thread is about influencers on social media & other forums promoting “8647,” which would more clearly fall under Brandenburg v. Ohio. Given the proclivity of mentally ill, deranged Democrats to attempt to physically harm the President, every instance of someone posting that should result in being sent to a camp.

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“Suppression of speech as an effective police measure is an old, old device, outlawed by our Constitution,” he concluded.


This is pretty hilarious coming from the party of people who banned Babylon Bee, a satire website, from Twitter - along with anyone else who dared question the draconian Covid laws or “science.”

Lastly, I would like to use my own freedom of speech to tell you to go frick yourself.
This post was edited on 5/4/25 at 8:04 pm
Posted by SwampMonster
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:05 pm to
Dude,
You’re an emotional and mental midget.
Respectfully,
The Management

Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:07 pm to


Love that "RESPECT" plate in the back. MIchigan's biggest grifter in a few decades who respects nobody but those that can give her more. Rich I tell ya.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:11 pm to
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Dude, You’re an emotional and mental midget. Respectfully, The Management


You gobble copious amounts of cock. I can read a book to learn some smarts. You’ll always be a sausage smoocher.
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