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re: New Indictments - Manafort & Gates (32 counts) IRS stuff
Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:19 am to Decatur
Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:19 am to Decatur
This raft of new charges and new plea presumably is the reason for the judge to hand down the order telling Mueller to play nicely.
Is it also the reason for discovery being granted last week?
And as for Gates, does this mean he fired the attorneys who wanted him to stick it out? If so, is that because someone else was paying for them and they were in a bind?
Is it also the reason for discovery being granted last week?
And as for Gates, does this mean he fired the attorneys who wanted him to stick it out? If so, is that because someone else was paying for them and they were in a bind?
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:20 am to Pfft
quote:Or it's made up bullshite.
'a source familiar with his thinking'
That is a weird statement.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:21 am to Decatur
quote:Manafort is 68 years old, also, the state of NY will want some for any of the tax angle - he might die in a upstate NY prison.
Gotta wonder what conversations these two have had.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:27 am to skinny domino
He better have some juice.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:28 am to Decatur
quote:How much?
He better have some juice.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:36 am to TigerDoc
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And this tidbit is a clue to how Trump views what Manafort has on him.
So lazy. Not you...the NBC report. Every article you post is based upon the assumption trump is guilty of something involving Russia and everything is leading to some grand "flip"!which will end him. D.C. Leaks like a sieve. We have not heard one whisper of any actual evidence of trump being involved with Russia. All we have are financial crimes from pre trump years and process crimes.
It's such a crazy thing to watch. And for otherwise educated people to fall for. It really does show how much confirmation bias can cloud sound judgment.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:37 am to skinny domino
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NBC News Exclusive: Federal prosecutors looking into a possible quid-pro-quo deal between Paul Manafort and former Trump economic adviser Stephen Calk, over $16 million in loans according to multiple people with direct knowledge of the matter
LINK
LINK
Got Tim. Hillary is president. Etc.
ETA: blah, misread. Clarified now.
This post was edited on 2/23/18 at 10:40 am
Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:45 am to Mephistopheles
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over $16 million in loans
Almost as much as Manafort owes to Oleg Deripaska.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:46 am to Decatur
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Almost as much as Manafort owes to Oleg Deripaska.
But not nearly as much as you owe, of course
Posted on 2/23/18 at 1:22 pm to Iosh
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Daily Beast isn't exactly covering itself in glory this week
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@woodruffbets
Even good sources can sometimes lead you in the wrong direction.
Here's the corrected story:
This one was not a good one.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 2:09 pm to TigerDoc
NBC Politics reporting now that agreement to cooperate is indeed part of his plea.
quote:
@NBCPolitics
In the plea agreement, Rick Gates has agreed to cooperate with the government which includes to furnish any documents and testify at any future proceedings, per courthouse
Posted on 2/23/18 at 4:19 pm to TigerDoc
His lawyers quit because he lied to the FBI. Whether that means they wanted him not to plead guilty or that they couldn't work with him once it was clear he'd lied, I'm not sure. The motion to withdraw was filed the day he's accused of lying, which I'm assuming means the latter.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 4:35 pm to Mephistopheles
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His lawyers quit because he lied to the FBI.
Oh interesting. The speculation was that they disagreed with him about his plea.
Obviously not an attorney question - is it weird that his defense attorneys would break up with him for this but the Feds would still be willing to plead him down after being lied to?
Posted on 2/23/18 at 4:40 pm to TigerDoc
quote:m
NBC Politics reporting now that agreement to cooperate is indeed part of his plea.
Of course it is. That language is in every plea agreement ever that has co-defendants or an ongoing investigation. I mean every plea agreement. Go to the most rural parish Court you can find. Look at the ole agreement of anyone who had a co-defendant....you will see that language. It means absolutely nothing.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 5:09 pm to BBONDS25
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It means absolutely nothing.
What happens if the defendant breaks the agreement?
Posted on 2/23/18 at 5:09 pm to texridder
Plea deal is off.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 5:36 pm to RaginCajunz
In other words, shite they charge you with when they can’t find anything else.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 6:12 pm to BBONDS25
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Plea deal is off.
So how can it mean nothing if the defendant loses his sentencing recommendation or whatever he bargained for?
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