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New expanation of why communism hasn't worked YET
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:52 am
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:52 am
So, I'm reading this article about Venezuela's economic collapse. We all know that the left always points to these failures and maintains 'it hasn't been implemented correctly yet.'
Well, a different excuse is 'war'....armed conflict tearing Venezuela off it's smooth running economic track.
Then they point to the USSR's collapse. Hey, it was the Cold War siphoning money from the outstanding economy that communism had produced.
My immediate thought was 'what about Cuba?' What happened to Castro's utopia? Was there a war down there bigger than the Bay of Pigs?
If you grant them the premise: "Communism can only flourish in an environment of peace" then communism can never flourish because lasting peace is not the natural state of human society. History has taught us that lesson for 1,000s of years.
Thoughts?
Well, a different excuse is 'war'....armed conflict tearing Venezuela off it's smooth running economic track.
Then they point to the USSR's collapse. Hey, it was the Cold War siphoning money from the outstanding economy that communism had produced.
My immediate thought was 'what about Cuba?' What happened to Castro's utopia? Was there a war down there bigger than the Bay of Pigs?
If you grant them the premise: "Communism can only flourish in an environment of peace" then communism can never flourish because lasting peace is not the natural state of human society. History has taught us that lesson for 1,000s of years.
Thoughts?
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Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:58 am to Zach
Someone has to point out a socialist country that has been brought up from gored zero to achieve any sort of success anywhere.
ALL socialist counrties that I know of have only achieved success by overtaking an EXISTING government and then their success is only temporary - it always begins to deteriorate immediately.
Socialism has NOTHING inherent that makes it a workable system for human beings - it works well for insects only.
ALL socialist counrties that I know of have only achieved success by overtaking an EXISTING government and then their success is only temporary - it always begins to deteriorate immediately.
Socialism has NOTHING inherent that makes it a workable system for human beings - it works well for insects only.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:58 am to Zach
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My immediate thought was 'what about Cuba?' What happened to Castro's utopia?
Lefties will say that them getting cut off was a major factor. Wouldnt happen here bc we wouldnt be, and have more resources. Yadda yadda yadda
This post was edited on 5/18/19 at 8:59 am
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:59 am to Zach
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Communism can only flourish in an environment of peace
and everyone knows that peace only comes from crushing your enemies in war
so, Communism ain't never going to work
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:02 am to ChineseBandit58
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Someone has to point out a socialist country that has been brought up from gored zero to achieve any sort of success anywhere.
Similar could be said about other type of countries that don't have the western euro capitalistic democratic mindset.
This post was edited on 5/18/19 at 9:04 am
Posted on 5/18/19 at 10:02 am to TOSOV
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Similar could be said about other type of countries that don't have the western euro capitalistic democratic mindset.
China and Japan have done OK throughout history. Emperor states can economically viable though sometimes bloody - and they are prime places for a socialist takeover.
Socialist never build up from nothingness - they require a successful model to be the host for their parasitic core.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 10:05 am to Zach
Trump’s trying to make it happen here in America.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 10:06 am to Zach
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Thoughts?
If someone can’t understand on their own why communism doesn’t work, there is no sense in trying to explain it.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 10:06 am to Halftrack
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Trump’s trying to make it happen here in America.
new level of stupid
Posted on 5/18/19 at 10:11 am to gthog61
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new level of stupid
It really is. Trump is a total Moron.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 10:16 am to Halftrack
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Trump’s trying to make it happen here in America
Hook too shiny.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 10:27 am to ChineseBandit58
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Emperor states can economically viable though sometimes bloody - and they are prime places for a socialist takeover.
Two months ago I watched one of those history videos about ancient wars. A lot of Chinese conflicts have been lost to history because they weren't as good with documentation as the Romans.
But there was one war about 1,000 years ago that was an attempt at a communist revolution. The rebel against the emperor promised equality for the poor. They would overthrow the govt and divide up the land. He lost.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 10:56 am to Zach
Because in communism , every citizen wants to be an “outdoor thinker and theologian” and live like the CEO of Amazon.
No one wants the job of coal miner or trash man.
No one wants the job of coal miner or trash man.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 11:05 am to Zach
It's true.
Communist countries will languish due to dumb policies, then competent capitalist countries will punish them militarily because they are stronger.
War will always be present.
Communist countries will languish due to dumb policies, then competent capitalist countries will punish them militarily because they are stronger.
War will always be present.
This post was edited on 5/18/19 at 11:07 am
Posted on 5/18/19 at 11:07 am to ChineseBandit58
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China and Japan have done OK throughout history. Emperor states can economically viable though sometimes bloody - and they are prime places for a socialist takeover.
Euro/American-style capitalism is what is keeping these nations afloat. it's what is keeping it together. Otherwise we would continue to see latin american style uprisings since those countries havent been able to keep capitalism in place. Personally I think it's due to their heavy catholic social teachings that many dont want to think they are disrespecting, even though they know it's holding them back.
India is another similar example. If it werent for imperialism, india wouldnt have one language/concept that ties/keeps the country together.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 11:19 am to Halftrack
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Trump’s trying to make it happen here in America.
Trump is trying to make communism work in America? Can you explain?
Posted on 5/18/19 at 11:27 am to Halftrack
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It really is. Trump is a total Moron.
You said it wrong. Let me help you. Repeat after me.
ORANGE MAN BAD.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 11:38 am to Zach
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If you grant them the premise: "Communism can only flourish in an environment of peace" then communism can never flourish because lasting peace is not the natural state of human society. History has taught us that lesson for 1,000s of years.
There are four pillars of human civilization:
War
Religion
Cities
Trade
Communism is anti-WRCT and always devolves into totalitarianism.
War is necessary for technological innovation. In very recent times, science has begun to replace war in this role, however.
Religion is the glue that binds a civilized society together. "All for one and one for all," and all that. Regrettably, there are many religions and clashes of who the one is has historically led to war.
Cities are essential for civilization because they promote intense socialization and make religion's role in controlling the population easier and more efficient.
Trade may be the most important pillar because it spreads new ideas, promotes ecomies of scale and lessens the threat of wars between disparate societies.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 11:40 am to Zach
I heard a similar argument the other day. Venezuela only failed because of America's economic pressure and sanctions. You see, the greedy capitalists in America wanted the oil and would do anything to steal it.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 11:46 am to Kentucker
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Religion is the glue that binds a civilized society together.
Voltaire (who was a deist): 'I want my tailor, my lawyer and my wife to believe in God. I shall get cheated less often.'
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