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re: NeverTrumpers forgot they don’t matter

Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:00 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467137 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:00 am to
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No, you made the claim you tell us.


The ball is in your court

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The question is how many 0s come after "0.0" before you admit it's a nothingburger. You tell me that and I'll try to do some napkin math. I need a specific demarcation from you, though, so we can test your comment compared to mine.

So, what % is significant for you?


No point in me doing the math and you moving the goalposts. So establish the acceptable criteria.

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Also tell us how the strikes have affected shipment volume or rates due to fear.


The pivot has already begun
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297594 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:03 am to
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Every effective measure is a double edged sword. And you can't always choose who wields it... doesn't mean you don't use it when warranted.


MAGA will not be able to complain when the dems declare climate change emergencies, and force deficit spending because its what you folks support.

All y'all are doing is setting the table for more left wing shenanigans, and you dont know why.

Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
40716 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:46 am to
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The ball is in your court


Nope. That’s not how arguing works. You’re a lawyer you should be much better at this.

You made a claim. Back it up
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467137 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:48 am to
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Nope. That’s not how arguing works. You’re a lawyer you should be much better at this.



I'm a lawyer and I understand rhetoric

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No point in me doing the math and you moving the goalposts. So establish the acceptable criteria.


Arguing that is usually the foundation of a rhetoric. I know the dishonest types like yourself and how you will just move the goalposts, so before I potentially waste my time, I understand how to ensure you can't.

I see that you're resisting, which isn't shocking (considering you already started pivoting in the prior post).
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
2249 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:50 am to
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Actively rooting for people who are willing to kill dozens of Americans per shipment...
How oblivious must one be, to think that the lives of the criminals in the boats is the problem with this policy?
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
2249 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:54 am to
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But you have to admit that you weigh your bigger concerns against dozens of American deaths per boat.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
2249 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:14 am to
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What if
The basis of all your arguments ever
Spoken like someone who lives his life, giving no thought whatsoever to the inevitable consequences of his own actions.

No wonder that you identify with the drug addicts
This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 10:15 am
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
2249 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:16 am to
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I think you're perfectly capable of grasping the nuance here.

I do not care if a drug boat gets blown up. It's completely rational to separate that from the method & actors that blow them up, and wondering if that process is a good one that won't create unforeseen problems down the road.
well said
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7639 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:18 am to
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Some people see the bigger picture and the concerns presented


How SFP sees himself...


How the Poli Board sees him...


Posted by leftywilliams
Member since Nov 2025
147 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:39 am to
Trump is a piece, but I like his policies.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
16596 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:42 am to
Most never Trumpers that I know are WITH Trump on the immigration issue(s). It's the other things like getting a luxury aircraft from Qatar, pardoning people like George Santos, not fulfilling his promises, that is what makes them hope for a change.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6203 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 2:40 pm to
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You think these small boats leaving Venezuela will have any real impact on US supply? Why?

You are aware that we are targeting boats in the Pacific as well.

Remember, there are no roads from south America to Mexico, the Darién gap is undefeated by roads.

Those drug boats in the Pacific, where are they headed?

To Mexico?

So their packages can be transhipped into US Ports of Entry?

Same with the Caribbean, how do you think these drugs get to Mexico.

Or are the boats empty...
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6203 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 2:45 pm to
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How oblivious must one be, to think that the lives of the criminals in the boats is the problem with this policy?

If these were unmanned barges that were floating up here would you care?
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