re: Net Neutrality People Have Convinced Me

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We been trying to tell them

they don't care

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They'll be driving home from work one day and will pull up Breitbart on their phone, only to realize that their wireless carrier is blocking their access to the website due to "hateful content".

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Good lord, you're stupid.

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This is the type of argument most often employed by pro-NN people. Hence my decision.

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If the shoe fits...

Net Neutrality has been a defining feature of the internet since its inception. Basically, what it means is that all web pages, no matter how large or small, all load at the same rate. Now, if there is more data on a sight, it will take more time (like pouring water into an olympic swimming pool verses a kiddie pool, but they both fill at the same rate. This means that every pissant political blog loads just as fast as Drudge or NYT or WAPO. The website for the local boutique down the street loads just as fast as amazon. This was regulated by the private group ICANN up until 2014.

Around that time, customers began noticing that ISP’s were suddenly slowing their data speeds while they watched Netflix. They caught them redhanded, and the ISP’s quickly settled to avoid having to turn over discovery revealing how long they had been doing this. ICANN realized that the technology of the ISP’s had grown beyond their abilities to effectively police, so they announced that they would no longer be the sole regulator, and turned that job over to the one group that had the authority to keep ISP’s in line, the FCC.

See, as the internet can be roughly thought of as having approximately 4 parts:
ISP’s
Search engines & social media
Content providers
Content consumers

Search engines make money by getting sites to pay the search engine to make their site appear early enough in a search that consumers will see it. Social media like twitter and facebook operate much the same way in how they filter what is seen on people’s news feeds. Several search engines (including Yahoo and google) were caught filtering news stories based on politics, not payment, during the last election cycle, burying stories critical of the democratic party. The same was done by social media companies. That made views not shared by the search engines/social media companies harder to find, but they were still on the internet if you were willing to look.

If net neutrality is done away with, ISP’s will be able to pick and choose not which sites are easiest to find in a search, but which sites can be accessed, period. Sites that either don’t pay up or don’t reflect the views of the ISP will have the bandwidth denied to them so they cannot load. Those opposing views won’t just be tough to find, they won’t exist. Sally’s boutique won’t be able to load her own website, and be forced to use amazon or ebay as her online store.

Imagine if the water company could do the same to you. Baton rouge Water could decide to cut your water pressure any time you try to use the hose to wash your car or water a garden. It doesn’t matter that you’re already paying for the service, they’ll be able to dictate how you use it rather than simply charging you based on how much.

Ending net neutrality could endanger what made the internetso damn important and ubiquitous in the first place: the free exchange of ideas and commerce. That is why preserving net neutrality is so important. It’s what makes the internet so liberating for everyone on this planet who can access if.

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entities like Google

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Google doesn't know anything about the internet. Orangle_and_Blur.com will revolutionize search products i am sure...

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Germany and England have much better internet than the US.

Basic speeds of 25meg are cheap as frick.

I had 100 down for 20 euro a month and 100 down fiber for around £25 a month. Good luck getting that price in America.

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South Korea has internet twice as fast for $20 a month. No one here is going to listen though

I’d rather have that and then have ISPs competing for my business than the government (who is already to blame for the monopolies in a lot of areas) regulating internet. I’m sure once they get a foothold there, the next thing we’ll be voting on regulating is fake news or something.


Government did special deals for some of these big ISPs that has made it hard to compete for small ISPs. But now daddy government is going to save us from the problem they were in on creating.

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Government did special deals for some of these big ISPs that has made it hard to compete for small ISPs. But now daddy government is going to save us from the problem they were in on creating.

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with our taxes, we gave these companies over $400 billion for the infrastructure (that the companies kept and didnt even complete).

so we (you and me) paid for it, thousands of engineers and workers build and maintain it, then a few businessmen take credit for it. THEN the infrastructure that we already paid for gets sold back to us

taxpayers have put in billions over the years to isp's for them to upgrade our infrastructure and they have not

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Glad to see you vote out of spite instead of, you know, the actual issues at hand

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That's MAGA in a nutshell.

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pre-2015 , isps were regulated by the fcc and their practices were shut down when trying to throttle or block content; the FCC intervened because ISPs were blocking and deciding content.

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“We’re the govt and we are here to help”