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Neighbors Speak About Lakewood Shooter

Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:09 am
Posted by DingLeeBerry
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Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:09 am
Neighbors of Lakewood Church shooter detail years of 'hell,' police inaction: 'Only a matter of time' Transgender Texas megachurch shooter displayed swastikas, regularly harassed residents while wielding rifle, neighbors say

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Moreno – who was originally from El Salvador, had a lengthy criminal record and previously used the name Jeffrey Escalante Moreno – brought the 7-year-old into the megachurch before opening fire, and the boy remains hospitalized in critical condition. "Four years I’ve been through hell. I have reported this, reported this, reported this, and it’s gone on deaf ears," Jill told the outlet. "I’ve had psychological officers up here. Since they won’t answer their door, they won’t do anything: ‘Until she hurts you, there’s nothing we can do.’ So, everybody keeps saying on all these big news stations, ‘If you see something, say something.’ That’s bulls---. Because I’ve been through it. I’ve talked to everybody. I’ve probably called every one of your news stations trying to get someone to take this on." "No one would do anything. Nobody would call me back. And yet everyone’s still on these stations saying, ‘See something, say something.’ Nobody should have died. Nobody should have been hurt. This should have been handled years ago. And here we are again," Jill added.



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They said they frequently spotted Moreno wearing a trench coat while carrying gun cases and a long rifle in and out of the house. Jill recalled that the day of the shooting she saw Moreno pull a sedan into the driveway and cover the vehicle with a blue tarp so that cameras could not pick up what Moreno placed inside. "It looked really odd, and I thought it was weird, but I thought she’s weird anyway, so you never know what this girl is up to, so I just watched my back and just left it at that," Jill said.


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Her way of intimidation was to bring the gun cases in and out, crossbows, you know she’d come out and she’d have her gun cases out there, and she’d do a ‘Hail Hitler’ sign or flip you off or b----. You know, it was something every day," Jill said. "There’s just so many things, and it just seemed to keep escalating. And then when she started targeting other women in the neighborhood, that’s when we all really started getting concerned because we didn’t know how far it was going to go. I wasn’t the only one being targeted."


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In the wake of the shooting, the child's grandmother released a statement that said in part, "Although my former daughter-in-law raged against Israel and Jews in a pro-Palestinian rant yesterday this has nothing to do with Judaism or Islam. Nothing! But this is what happens when reckless and irresponsible reporting lets people with severe mental illness have an excuse for violence," she said. The statement also charged that "[t]he fault lies in child protective services of Montgomery County and Harris County that refused to remove custody from a woman with known mental illness that was not being treated and with the state of Texas for not having strong red flag laws that would have prevented her from owning or possessing a gun."


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From the view of her bedroom window, Jill said she could see swastikas and gang signs Moreno had put on display. Moreno also put baby monitors on their shared fence, Jill said. The next-door neighbor said Moreno also made her Wi-Fi address "Kill Jill," honked her horn for hours on end when she was outside trying to garden and blasted rap music with threatening lyrics. "One of the songs had the lyrics ‘somebody’s going to get f---ed up tonight,’ Jill said. "She’d back it up and replay it for hours on end."


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This was a weekly occurrence. She was after me," Jill said. "At first it was always like, ‘Oh, it’s because I’m transgender.’ Then it was ‘because we’re Mexican.’ Then it was because ‘we’re Black.’ And then every time, depending on what her narrative was for that day, she’d change the reason you were picking on her. You know?" (Investigators at a Monday news conference identified Moreno as a woman and the biological mother of the 7-year-old child.) Jill said Moreno filed a false report with the post office that mail was not being delivered because Moreno was transgender. However, in fact, according to Jill, Moreno had a vehicle parked blocking the mailbox. The mail carrier, the same man who had been delivering Jill's mail for about five to six years, has a transgender son and came to Moreno's door to clear the air after that report. However, according to Jill, Moreno went off on him. The mail carrier afterward "came to my house and said, ‘Jill, this woman next door is after you.’ He quit the next day," the woman said.


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My daughter even called Conroe PD and raised Cain with them and said, ‘Aren’t you guys going to do anything? Are you going to wait until I get the phone call that my mom is dead?'" Jill told FOX 26. "It's gotten very scary." Two Thanksgivings ago, Jill said, her grandchildren were visiting from Minnesota and did not want to play in the backyard because Moreno had an aggressive dog that rocked even their heavily plated fence, so they opted to do crafts on the driveway. That's when Jill said Moreno took out a rifle to intimidate the children. "She wanted to scare my grandkids, so she went out and got the long rifle – OK, they’re from Minnesota, they shoot, they know what’s going on. Well, she went to the backyard, opened a blind that had never been opened before in four years, and was putting the rifle out of it, like she was going to gun down on somebody," Jill said. The neighborhood situation grew so bad, Giutta said, that she and a group of women once took a day off work and went to the courthouse.

Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:12 am to
And they’ll still make it about the AR-15.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:15 am to
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originally from El Salvador


Non-Hispanic
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21113 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:15 am to
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And they’ll still make it about the AR-15.


I’m all for citizens owning guns. I have quite a few myself, including semi-auto shotguns.

But someone with her background and documented criminal and mental history, including having served jail time, never should have been allowed to legally purchase a firearm.

So yes, if there is something in the laws that would allow a person with her background to pass a background check to legally buy and possess a firearm, then that missing link needs to be identified and fixed.

If that opinion makes me some anti-2nd Amendment pinko, so be it.
This post was edited on 2/14/24 at 9:19 am
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18296 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:15 am to
The whole "we can't do anything unless they hurt you" excuse is a crock of shite. Verbal abuse, harassment, and disturbing the peace should always be investigated and policed.

I remember a story (maybe posted on the OT?) from a few years ago. A crazy guy was walking his neighborhood everyday shouting verbal obscenities at neighbors, kids, whoever. Constantly cussing, using extreme vulgarity, and just disrupting the general peace of the neighborhood. The police said they couldn't do anything about it.

Like what does our society expect us to do? If I were Jill, and I felt like my life and my kids' lives were threatened, I'm taking things into my own hands if the police won't help. But then I would be the bad guy, somehow.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94678 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:15 am to
Short form -

This ticking time bomb was clearly identified and allowed to continue for whatever reason.

I’m sure that Texas has its own form of a 5150 where they could have put this idiot through but didn’t for whatever reason.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94678 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:17 am to
And when people take the threats seriously and try to subdue these assholes, they get charged and the insane dangerous person becomes a “beloved Michael Jackson impersonator.”

It should be argued that they are just helping him impersonate Jackson’s current state.
Posted by Athis
Member since Aug 2016
11484 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:22 am to
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3197 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:26 am to
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The police said they couldn't do anything about it.



This is an inane response... and inconsistent with how they apply their responsibilities in other circumstances...

as an example.. if you are driving erratically, they will pull you over in a heart beat to see if you are under the influence..
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
33969 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:28 am to
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She was after me," Jill said. "At first it was always like, ‘Oh, it’s because I’m transgender.’ Then it was ‘because we’re Mexican.’ Then it was because ‘we’re Black.’ And then every time, depending on what her narrative was for that day, she’d change the reason you were picking on her.


If she claimed that she was transgender, and reported it as such in a grievance with an official government agency (Post Office), how can it be denied?

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Moreno filed a false report with the post office that mail was not being delivered because Moreno was transgender. However, in fact, according to Jill, Moreno had a vehicle parked blocking the mailbox.
This post was edited on 2/14/24 at 9:32 am
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94678 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:29 am to
There is a difference between something that can bring in cash and something that will cost the department money.

One is pushed hard, the other is discouraged explicitly or implicitly.
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
1780 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:30 am to
that poor poor kid. why was he allowed to stay in that home.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50191 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:32 am to
Another Democrat hero for the Progressive posters here to worship. Wonder how many times he voted?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80074 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:33 am to
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Well, she went to the backyard, opened a blind that had never been opened before in four years, and was putting the rifle out of it, like she was going to gun down on somebody,


Someone should have gunned her down right then. You don't raise a gun at someone unless you're going to use it.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26609 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:36 am to
Why is no one asking the obvious question: why was she never deported? Everyone knew she was an illegal with a criminal history. Why was she still in the U. S.?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94678 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:36 am to
Because the Feds wouldn’t allow it.

Don’t need to know anything other than they were an illegal and I can tell you that much.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:39 am to
More blood on Democrat hands.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
6795 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:46 am to
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in the wake of the shooting


What shooting? This will be buried deep just like the rest of the killer-tranny stories...
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
26985 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:47 am to
So, mentally ill people are going to do mentally ill things that give clues that they will eventually snap...

Questions:

1. Illegally in this country, criminal background, why not deported?

2. How did the mentally ill person acquire its firearms?
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
6934 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:48 am to
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Moreno – who was originally from El Salvador, had a lengthy criminal record and previously used the name Jeffrey Escalante Moreno – brought the 7-year-old into the megachurch before opening fire, and the boy remains hospitalized in critical condition. "Four years I’ve been through hell. I have reported this, reported this, reported this, and it’s gone on deaf ears," Jill told the outlet. "I’ve had psychological officers up here. Since they won’t answer their door, they won’t do anything: ‘Until she hurts you, there’s nothing we can do.’ So, everybody keeps saying on all these big news stations, ‘If you see something, say something.’ That’s bulls---. Because I’ve been through it. I’ve talked to everybody. I’ve probably called every one of your news stations trying to get someone to take this on." "No one would do anything. Nobody would call me back. And yet everyone’s still on these stations saying, ‘See something, say something.’ Nobody should have died. Nobody should have been hurt. This should have been handled years ago. And here we are again," Jill added.
Damn
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