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re: Navy officer applies to become the first ever woman to join the elite SEALs

Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:14 pm to
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There is no logical reason I have to have read it first for you to point out the "positive results" that you claimed were omitted.


If we're going to talk about it, you should at least read it.

If you aren't willing to do that, just say so.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126644 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:15 pm to
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If we're going to talk about it, you should at least read it. If you aren't willing to do that, just say so.


Why don't you tell us the results that prove women should be in combat arms.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37618 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:16 pm to
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If we're going to talk about it, you should at least read it.

So you cannot back up a claim that you, yourself, made? You can obfuscate all you want.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19274 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:16 pm to
GI Jane, baws




BTW, no woman is going to make it through BUD/S without help or special treatment. The Marine Corps already has two separate boot camps. I suspect we'll see that with the SEALs one day (which will completely ruin the SEALS just as the Marines have been ruined).
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:16 pm to
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So you cannot back up a claim that you, yourself, made? You can obfuscate all you want.



Are you going to read it, or not?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126644 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:18 pm to
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Are you going to read it, or not?


Intellectual laziness is not an attractive trait lady.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:19 pm to
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Intellectual laziness is not an attractive trait lady.
at this point it's pretty obvious that it's just an elaborate troll. if there actually were positive results for her to she would be trumpeting them not asking you to find them
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:21 pm to
What I'm getting at, is this report that has been trumpeted by several people in this thread, is something most of them haven't even looked at.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37618 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:22 pm to
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Are you going to read it, or not?

Sure. I think all start at the portion that you claim was omitted. According to you, the rest of the study is "narrow" so I'd like to get to the heart of it. It's critical for me to know which portions of the study were suppressed in order to form an opinion. Where can I find that omitted portion?

You know, the portion of the study that you would have already copy and pasted all over the thread if it said what you claim it does?
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
46116 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:23 pm to
Let her apply and try to pass the test with no special qualifications. If she makes it, good. If she doesn't, it's not because she didnt't try.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:24 pm to
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I'm getting at, is this report that has been trumpeted by several people in this thread, is something most of them haven't even looked at.
that's a nice Dodge but you're on a message board having a discussion and rather than point to the evidence you believe exists you want people to halt discussion so that they can read a 978 page document before you'll go any further

It's pretty obvious when you're doing. You are certain you have supporting evidence in the document. Then point to it
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:24 pm to
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Sure.



Fantastic. Let me know when you're finished.
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:25 pm to
I don't think it's unreasonable to ask someone that called me a liar to read this report.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37618 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:26 pm to
Another dodge. Surprise.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37618 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:27 pm to
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I don't think it's unreasonable to ask someone that called me a liar to read this report.

You've lied about more than just the report.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126644 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:27 pm to
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I don't think it's unreasonable to ask someone that called me a liar to read this report.


Its more reasonable to provide evidence backing up your claim.
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:27 pm to
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Another dodge. Surprise.



The report is 978 pages. The summary is four pages. You really expect me to go through it with you page by page?
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:28 pm to
I haven't lied about anything. Many of you made some incorrent inferences, but that's on you.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:29 pm to
The whole study discussion is a farce anyways. If it were true than women could perform on male teams requiring physical prowess without degrading the operational capability of the male teams then we would have women in the major leagues women in the NFL and women in the NBA

At least a couple of them. But heck we don't even have women men's soccer.

The reality is that the best female football player alive couldn't start for any Division 1 program much less the NFL

The best female baseball player alive would be completely non-competitive at the College World Series

And the best woman's basketball player alive would be a liability on even mediocre college basketball teams

I'm not entirely sure what I study can tell you that real life hasn't already told you
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37618 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:29 pm to
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The report is 978 pages. The summary is four pages. You really expect me to go through it with you page by page?

No. I do not. I simply ask you to provide me the page numbers of the omitted portions.
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