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Posted by BamaScoop
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 4:21 pm to
Ridiculous!
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 4:24 pm to
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The end game is to dismantle, discredit and ultimately banish the Bible. Mark my words.
You’ll be viewed something of a conspiracy theorist even though you’re correct.

Jesus said if they hate you they hated me first.

No revisionist first attacked Jesus, they attacked Paul or the date of John’s gospel-in short-the good book and Jesus’s Apostles. It’s a longer way around to ultimately ban the Bible and do away with Christ but they are patient and it’s been fairly effective.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:40 pm to
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You voted for this.

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No I didn't you mouth breathing retard


Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:44 pm to
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If we spent any time teaching African or Asian history in public schools You might have a point.


They are...not that you would know.

Let me guess, you didn’t attend a public school, but somehow you are the expert.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:58 pm to
Democrats are morally bankrupt and downright sinister.
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:12 am to
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Nope. They can certainly choose canonical literature if they want though.
So, more like the patients in charge of the asylum.

Do you encourage them in the direction of canonical literature at all? Are they given a curated list of age/grade appropriate literature that is, say, roughly 50/50 weighted towards the canonical?

Does each student have a choice or does the mob rule and the majority determines what will and what will not be read?

If majority rules, what are they reading now or planning to read?
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 5:23 am to
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Does each student have a choice


Each student has a choice.

And no, there’s no special emphasis on canonical literature. Why would there be?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 6:27 am to
The fact that you are aren't forcefully attacking the teachers involved in this sort of shite says as much about YOU as it does the pedophiles in your profession who are openly pushing this shite.

Apparently in 2022, even the "good" teachers are grooming pieces of shite.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 6:52 am to
I am a teacher. Must not be a great one because after I get finished with academics there is no time for anything else.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 7:27 am to
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Why would there be?


This is exactly the point of my post to which you originally replied. Your posts throughout this thread are hilarious.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 8:01 am to
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The fact that you are aren't forcefully attacking the teachers involved in this sort of shite says as much about YOU as it does the pedophiles in your profession who are openly pushing this shite.


I don’t know any.

But I included in my original comments that I was derailing the conversation. I wasn’t focused on whatever weird shite is going on with a union. I was curious about the typical PB claim for people to pull their kids out of public schools because it’s a breeding ground for Marxist thought.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 8:03 am to
Do you believe that as a whole, the Public education system is a breeding ground for Leftist thought, yes or no?
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 8:10 am to
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Do you believe that as a whole, the Public education system is a breeding ground for Leftist thought, yes or no?


The entire theme of my comments has been that no, the system is not a breeding ground for leftist thought.

And again, I have only worked in wealthier, high achieving school systems. I assume considering the demographic of posters on TD (some kind of college educated with a white collar job that allows time for message board discourse), most posters here would have their kids in similar kinds of public schools. So when I see many say that they want to pull their kids out because it’s a “breeding ground for Leftist thought,” I question where in the public school system that exists. It’s not in any curriculum standards I know.

So is it really a system problem? Or is it individual teachers? A few schools here and there? A pamphlet in a union’s website?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 8:58 am to
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So when I see many say that they want to pull their kids out because it’s a “breeding ground for Leftist thought,” I question where in the public school system that exists. It’s not in any curriculum standards I know.


It’s kind of amazing to see you parrot leftist thought and then say that the school isn’t a breeding ground for leftist thought.

The curriculum standards argument is a red herring.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 9:01 am to
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The entire theme of my comments has been that no, the system is not a breeding ground for leftist thought.

And again, I have only worked in wealthier, high achieving school systems.


And in the SE, apparently. Even if what you say is correct you only claim knowledge in a narrow slice of public education but make proclamations for what's going on across the entire country.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24096 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 9:48 am to
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It’s not in any curriculum standards I know.




What's your school district?
Posted by AUauditor
Georgia
Member since Sep 2004
1662 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 9:55 am to
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Get your kids out of public schools. If you care about them at all, do what’s needed to make that happen.


Before doing that, get involved, review your kids work, talk to them every day about what they are learning, know your kids' teachers and admins, move to a different school district, etc.

Private school, on average, cannot provide as good of an all-around education, unless one pays college tuition while in high school. Once you have used up all your options, THEN make the move away from public school.

Abandoning schools will have the same shitty affect as white-flight did in the 60s/70s.
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
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Member since Nov 2012
6340 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 10:04 am to
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Each student has a choice.

Are they left totally to their own devices?
-for example: One student wants to explore racist underpinnings in Green Eggs and Ham. Another picks Fight Club because they think you think it’s cool and believe you like Palahniuk. A third student wants to have a go at Dumas and The Count of Monte Cristo and is discouraged because it’s possibly canonical and besides, Dumas was paid by the word for writing it…pick something else they’re told?
Is this admittedly exaggerated example something like how you’re handling your students?

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And no, there’s no special emphasis on canonical literature. Why would there be?

I’d guess there’s no emphasis on it at all and I’d bet you steer your students away from it because of your personal and professional bias against canonical literature.

A level of authority and responsibility higher than yourself should place some degree of special emphasis to insure canonical literature is given half a chance to enlighten the minds of your students and not be strangled by a teacher inimical to it.

In my opinion.



Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125442 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 11:39 am to
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In my opinion.


It’s not just your opinion. And I know you know that.

Education is now viewed as a tool to have students form “a more just society.” It’s not the transfer of knowledge and competency to a student. That’s the old boring system of education. The kind that worked and taught students.

Now the teacher “learns from the students” and their “lived experiences.” This is a barely hidden example of the Marxification of Education that runs through all this poster’s posts. And then they say “why do y’all think schools are teaching leftist thought?”
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
6340 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:17 pm to
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It’s not just your opinion. And I know you know that.
Fair enough, it’s my considered opinion. I didn’t want to shut the person down and end dialogue. I just don’t think they were being totally candid.

Whenever they question the “Canon” and “who decides?” my antenna and hackles go up. I’m not against expanding canonical literature based on merit but even merit has fallen on hard times as often as not bowing to ideals that are progressive culturally and politically and egalitarian (think French Revolution) at their core.
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