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This is obviously straying from the OP's original topic, but I've been curious when reading the Poli Board about how public education is just a breeding ground for Marxism. I don't see it in the curriculum standards at all.

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It's really great and such a relief that you don't see any problems in curriculum standards in public education. What's unfortunate is we all see the work product of public education, and it's embarrassingly shitty. Not only because of a pronounced lean to the Left (it's real), but I would care far less about the moronic political beliefs of our high school graduates if those beliefs were accompanied by a reasonable level of knowledge, skill and ability to critically think - because with an education, the political shite would fix itself.

Public education is a f'n disaster and it's a joke for you, apparently an educator, to pretend politics isn't a major influence in our schools.

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What are the classics? Who decided we should study them? Why those particular choices?

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I'm trying hard to not be sarcastic or cynical here but it's proving very difficult. I hope we're not being trolled here.

In the context of English as a subject:

- Chinua Achebe
- Langston Hughes
- Maya Angelou
- Jane Austen
- Virginia Woolf
- Charles Dickens
- Fyodor Dosteovsky
- Leo Tolstoy
- Voltaire
- Mark Twain
- Nietzsche
- Homer
- Earnest Hemingway
- George Orwell
- William Shakespeare
- J.D. Salinger
- Arthur Miller
- ON and ON

(You also see what I did there? I've included both African American and female authors so no one can use the "white supremacist racist" or "evil patriarchal misogynist" line against me.)

You ask who decided that they are considered authors of "classics"? The works by these authors are renowned and have been celebrated throughout the world as giants of literature - they are often referenced/studied repeatedly throughout history. There's your evidence, I don't know how else to convey that.

I suddenly feel like I'm Matt Walsh in "What is a Woman?" right now.

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Somehow I made it to my late 50s without ever even hearing of some that crap. Thankfully.

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Yep. Somehow I suspect the number of High Schoolers participating in fisting is right about zero.

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I read the definition & I still don’t understand it!

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I don't totally either, but I think it involves shoving a finger up into the body near a "female's" nutsack where there isn't an actual opening. It just sounds weird and painful.

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In the context of English as a subject:

- Chinua Achebe
- Langston Hughes
- Maya Angelou
- Jane Austen
- Virginia Woolf
- Charles Dickens
- Fyodor Dosteovsky
- Leo Tolstoy
- Voltaire
- Mark Twain
- Nietzsche
- Earnest Hemingway
- George Orwell
- William Shakespeare
- ON and ON

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Dosteovsky? Hell, I'd settle for HS graduates, that understand, comma's and apostrophe's.

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Public education is a f'n disaster and it's a joke for you, apparently an educator, to pretend politics isn't a major influence in our schools.

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Never said that. Politics has a major influence on everything, especially education. I’m just questioning a claim here and asking for what posters here would say is a conclusion.

The claim is that public education is a dangerous environment because it’s a breeding ground for Marxist ideology. I’m questioning what part of the curriculum accomplished that. Further, what should the curriculum look like if we eliminated the bad stuff?

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not teaching academic inquiry through various theoretical lenses.

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That's not happening in most Public Schools.

It's being taught thru a singular, very myopic lens.

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Can’t speak for the urban areas though.

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Then how are you qualified to say there's no indoctrination going on?

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The claim is that public education is a dangerous environment because it’s a breeding ground for Marxist ideology. I’m questioning what part of the curriculum accomplished that. Further, what should the curriculum look like if we eliminated the bad stuff?

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My answer would be - breeding ground for Marxism starts with an ignorant population incapable of thinking for itself. This is how public education is a dangerous environment, or maybe better stated - how public education is creating a dangerous environment. By doing such a shitty job of teaching foundational skills (reading, writing and arithmetic), public education has done yeoman's work in creating a society that is susceptible to extraordinary levels of BS (racism, climate change, Covid is going to kill us all) and results in mass willingness to surrender rights/freedoms because not knowing wtf is going on around you yields great fear.