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re: NATO saying entire Western alliance running out of ammo

Posted on 7/24/23 at 6:32 am to
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30546 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 6:32 am to
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NATO saying entire Western alliance running out of ammo



Well, hell, obviously we should crank up the MIC, print a bunch more money and refill our stocks and our allies stocks right now...

The MIC loves a proxy war... all the profits and none of the outcry about spilling American blood...
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8099 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 6:34 am to
The MIC isn’t going to let Ukraine war end until every country has a surplus of new age / new generation ammo and equipment.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 6:37 am to
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The MIC isn’t going to let Ukraine war end until every country has a surplus of new age / new generation ammo and equipment.


If the Ukraine war ends tomorrow, I would put money on us being in another war within a couple of months.

Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 7:10 am to
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Good time to get out of NATO! Taiwan can get fricked!


Long term I don’t disagree. It’s the dependency in the near term until you can create supply chain elsewhere that’s the issue. Keep the real enemy at bay.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21666 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 7:28 am to
I am not a 4 star general, but what advantage is there to admitting to ones enemies you have run out of ammo? Or that your stocks are running low? Idiocy. Russia probably thinks we are lying and attempting to bait them, while the reality is Biden just really is that stupid.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52597 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 7:38 am to
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Oh noz. I care about them like I do Ukraine.

This is because you are an ignoramus.
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
7749 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 7:39 am to
We are trying to provoke a war by any means possible.
Posted by FreedomBarefoot
42° parallel
Member since Aug 2016
2497 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 7:42 am to
Dang, I would love to see Russia's stockpile.
This post was edited on 7/24/23 at 8:15 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52597 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 7:44 am to
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And yet anyone who correctly predicted that a war of attrition ultimately favored Russia was declared to be a Putin apologist.


There is nothing about this war that is favoring Russia. It has turned into a much worse quagmire for them than for us. Russia might "win" the war, but it would be pyrrhic like it was for the North Vietnamese. In this sense, our efforts have already succeeded.
Posted by AnotherWin4LSU
Member since Jun 2023
395 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 7:47 am to
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NATO saying entire Western alliance running out of ammo



So is NATO's biggest threat, Russia. Europe and the USA need to step up production of ammo to both refill our inventories and supply Ukraine. However, the idea that we will be forced into a war short of ammo is laughable. Russia will be reduced to throwing rocks long before NATO is.

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Taiwan is fricked when China so chooses.



How is Taiwan fricked? Taiwan is not a NATO member and China is not going to attack NATO. Unlike Ukraine Taiwan has kept its military up to date.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21666 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 7:48 am to
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There is nothing about this war that is favoring Russia. It has turned into a much worse quagmire for them than for us. Russia might "win" the war, but it would be pyrrhic like it was for the North Vietnamese. In this sense, our efforts have already succeeded.


Succeeded in what?
Goading Russia into a proxy war that has destroyed a country and killed hundreds of thousands, for what?
Russia hasn't been fricking around on or borders for decades, it's the other way around.

You have a strange definition of "succeed".
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 7:53 am to
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There is nothing about this war that is favoring Russia.


Bodies.

Its a war of attrition, Ukraine will need more young men to die.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52597 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 7:53 am to
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Goading Russia into a proxy war that has destroyed a country and killed hundreds of thousands, for what?

No one goaded Russia into war. Russia has done what Russia has always done, try to expand their territory through conquering and intimidation.
quote:

You have a strange definition of "succeed".

Well, we will see. I think that in 10 years the picture will emerge of Russia and China as weak also-rans and the United States leading a coalition of democracies that is dominating the world.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87829 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 7:56 am to
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Its a war of attrition, Ukraine will need more young men to die.


This.

Russia’s MO throughout its history has consisted of three things: relying upon the vastness of their territory, scorched earth and throwing human wave after human wave at the enemy. They basically just bludgeon their enemies into submission.
This post was edited on 7/24/23 at 7:57 am
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
18197 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 7:59 am to
Link to this vast knowledge??

And no, don't post a picture of your a$$, please.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:00 am to
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No one goaded Russia into war.


Yes, its a proxy war.

Go do your research and stop repeating vapid talking points.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
18197 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:01 am to
Because he is an idiot.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:01 am to
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Russia’s MO throughout its history has consisted of three things: relying upon the vastness of their territory, scorched earth and throwing human wave after human wave at the enemy. They basically just bludgeon their enemies into submission.


Exactly.

Ukraine will run out of young men to die before Russia.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
18197 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:01 am to
Wasting your breath with this one, Roger.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10390 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:03 am to
quote:

There is nothing about this war that is favoring Russia. It has turned into a much worse quagmire for them than for us. Russia might "win" the war, but it would be pyrrhic like it was for the North Vietnamese. In this sense, our efforts have already succeeded.

Just look at how stupid you are.
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