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re: Nathan Bedford Forest bust to be removed from TN capitol
Posted on 7/21/21 at 11:24 am to Eli Goldfinger
Posted on 7/21/21 at 11:24 am to Eli Goldfinger
The statute/memorial removal movement definitely goes too far by, for example, drawing a bright line against any historical figure who may have owned a slave or indirectly profited from slavery; but this was an easy one.
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 11:24 am to crewdepoo
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No war generals age well. That’s why I think it’s good that we no longer glorify them.
We can remember history without statues.
Your values are an abomination.
God have mercy on you.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 11:25 am to psk_Vol
“1000s...”
Sure clown
source?
Sure clown
source?
Posted on 7/21/21 at 11:26 am to cadillacattack
NBF was a southerner. He was one of us. And we are the descendants of these people.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 11:26 am to stout
quote:Tons of other Americans had the opposite "morals" of Forrest contemporaneously with him. He lost. Next.
Due to his history, I don't disagree with this at all. However, I do still think it's hard to judge historical figures by the morals of today.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 11:33 am to crewdepoo
“Mostly blacks who were killed”
Those black Yankee soldiers had specifically wanted to attack Memphis and had been given the opportunity to surrender by the Confederate forces and they did not.
Nice try chump.
Those black Yankee soldiers had specifically wanted to attack Memphis and had been given the opportunity to surrender by the Confederate forces and they did not.
Nice try chump.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 11:37 am to CleverUserName
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Seems to be a recurring fact upon folks with an unmovable opinion on a subject they they have because of someone else’s propaganda.
Not just on the Civil War either.
Totally agree. That's why I ask, research, study, and not believe it because it's in print somewhere. Anyone can pen.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 11:37 am to BestBanker
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1. Are you a Tennessean?
I am, doesn't bother me they removed him. We have other people more deserving.
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2. State can do what state wants to do.
It can, it is also a deeply red state, so we can add someone else we like better.
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3. He was a figure to the state's history.
He was, but he isn't the best person to honor.
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4. He was a democrat, so I don't mind it being removed, but it should stay to remind the democrats.
Yep, but nah, we shouldn't leave him there.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 11:47 am to Big Scrub TX
I have zero problem with this either. I see that we've got some folks downplaying Forrest's role at Fort Pillow. The wannabe Banastre Tarleton (Buford's massacre?) in command and failed to control his troops. No downplaying that. This failure led to the murder of numerous (white) native-born Tennesseans serving in Union units (13th Tenn Cavalry) & USCT. Pretty silly that he's so revered. Study the man's tactics. No need to worship him otherwise. Also, replace him with a bust of David Farragut.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 11:51 am to GeauxVols
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I see that we've got some folks downplaying Forrest's role at Fort Pillow.
Fort Pillow was wartime propaganda.
Full stop.
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replace him with a bust of David Farragut.
And you choose the man who betrayed and fought against his own people?
That’s astonishing.
This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 11:53 am
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:00 pm to Lima Whiskey
Wartime propaganda? Similar to the post-war propaganda that the war was not about slavery? Possibly the propaganda that the Confederacy didn't have huge pockets of dissenters? Hell, even huge swaths of Northern Alabama had Unionists. Funny that Farragut is labeled the traitor and not the Secesh.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:02 pm to Confederate Brass
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The KKK was merely a subversive method of fighting back against the (((duplicitous Tyranny))) of the EXACT SAME pignosed Pedophile Banking Cartel Zionista that are controlling us TODAY.
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by Confederate Brass
Checks out
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:09 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Rip down every Confederate statue. They were all Democrats, after all. Good riddance.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:12 pm to GeauxVols
quote:
I see that we've got some folks downplaying Forrest's role at Fort Pillow.
Did Forrest order the killing of surrendering black troops? Yes or no?
Did Forrest offer unconditional surrender to all troops prior to the siege of the fort? Yes or no?
Was Forrest inside the fort when the majority of the fighting was happening? Yes or no?
Were black soldiers that drowned in the Mississippi River while fleeing counted in the “massacre”? Yes or no?
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:14 pm to Lima Whiskey
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And you choose the man who betrayed and fought against his own people?
That’s astonishing.
East Tennessee was very pro union throughout the war, Knoxville area was a very divided town about it.
Maybe a bit salty he fricked up ya'll forts down there?
I grew up near Ft Jackson, but graduated from Farragut High.
This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:18 pm to Dam Guide
This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:21 pm to Lima Whiskey
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NBF was a southerner. He was one of us. And we are the descendants of these people
Meh...
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:25 pm to IceTiger
Then you are not a southerner. You are not one of us.
It’s simple.
It’s simple.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:29 pm to Lima Whiskey
quote:I'm sure you are vocally against "hyphenated Americans" as well.
Then you are not a southerner. You are not one of us.
It’s simple.
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