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re: Myocarditis Was a 'Very, Very Small Price to Pay' for the COVID Vaccine

Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:11 pm to
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11880 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:11 pm to
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If you don’t know whether or not shots you are mandating have any effect


They knew they had great effect. They didn't know how much future effect they would have should a variant emerge or how much transmission would be stopped. If we had gone on the time-table of the previous fastest ever vaccines we would only just be getting them now after many people people had had the disease multiple times. Getting them out fast was a good thing. The messaging was what sucked.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128846 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:11 pm to
Womp womp.
Posted by RBTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
9190 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:14 pm to
I would upvote you ...but its 65 - 6

This dude is evil...would enjoy picking him apart in an exhibition boxing match
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:27 pm to
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Tell us how your BA in Mass Comm is holding up. Seems your talent is DU cut and paste.


Huh very interesting. Here’s a simple question for our resident ‘muh degree is in cellular immunology’ expert; can you describe the relationship between genome size and its mutation rate in viruses?
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10112 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:35 pm to
Can you tell us what role cell surface polysaccharides have in masking protein protein interaction between T cells and their targets? Assume we’re discussing murine cancer lines, mister muh Mass Com degree.

A couple of classes in immunology and no time at the bench leaves you strictly theory, I’m afraid.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:37 pm to
How about you answer my very simple question first, shithead, and then I’ll answer yours in my usual fashion.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10112 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:42 pm to
Answer it now, you dusky, bald-headed piece of schitt.

The closest you’ve ever been to research is your 3 hour and head home mandatory.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:43 pm to
I asked my question first, dumbass. Why are you avoiding it? I am typing up a complete answer for you as we speak.
Posted by idsrdum
Member since Jan 2017
624 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:45 pm to
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But the comparison here is between the same set of immunogenic material

It is NOT the same. The vaccine includes lipid nanoparticles and the spike mRNA is modified with substitutions. Wasn't there a Nobel prize for this? Also the delivery is IM rather than mucosal - how does that affect responses?

Given that antibody titers were much greater in the multiple mRNA vaccinated than with natural infection, might we assume that vaccine may indeed be more immunogenic?
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:49 pm to
I wonder if people pick on the flu vaccine like they did this one? Because it can lead to a Because it can lead to anaphylaxis and Guillain-Barre syndrome. Probably not. But I think the main difference is that many agencies were “requiring” the Covid jab.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8441 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:01 pm to
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this French study is interesting. It's 12-49 year olds with myocarditis related to COVID, vaccine, or neither and found vaccine-related myocarditis with better outcomes at 18 months (the other two were similar to each other).


I call BS on this study

As for a few examples

Vax does not prevent covid
Very very small segment of society gets myocarditis but why include 40 yo in study or even 30 yo as that is the time that myocarditis starts to happen more frequently
Isnt the outcome of vax caused myocarditis a separate study because absent that there would be zero so any outcome is bad

Finally - let's not forget all the atrial fibrillation also caused by the vax as another known side effect


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They knew they had great effect.


You absolutely cannot be a bigger idiot or more delusional

This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 5:03 pm
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11880 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:01 pm to
yeah, and because we have a weaponized information space and pandemics historically cause major social and political unrest. We've memory-holed how bad it was and talk about it now in the context of lots of fights that miss the point.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8441 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:06 pm to
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We've memory-holed how bad it was


Where the frick do you live?

In Florida we golfed and went outside and hung out and nobody cared

You are delusional with your fear porn
Posted by idsrdum
Member since Jan 2017
624 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:07 pm to
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I wonder if people pick on the flu vaccine like they did this one?
This was a 2006 news story from Sharyl Attkisson - An important and definitive “mainstream” government study done nearly a decade ago got little attention because the science came down on the wrong side. It found that after decades and billions of dollars spent promoting flu shots for the elderly, the mass vaccination program did not result in saving lives. In fact, the death rate among the elderly increased substantially.

https://sharylattkisson.com/2024/10/govt-researchers-flu-shots-not-effective-in-elderly-after-all/
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11880 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:10 pm to
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Very very small segment of society gets myocarditis


Yes. it's an infrequent problem and it's even less frequent if you got vaccinated than if you didn't. That's why Offit is calling it a small price to pay. And this is the most notorious vaccine side effect. To get a vaccine this safe out so fast was Trump's greatest achievement and he can't even take credit for it anymore.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
14115 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:12 pm to
I PRAY (yes, I believe in prayers) that nobody he cares for suffers from myocarditis or any other ailments caused by the vax. He wouldn't be so cavalier if they did!
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11880 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:13 pm to
1.1 million people have COVID on their death certificates.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128846 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:15 pm to
Cmon man. Go for 40 million if you’re going to shite numbers out.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11880 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:16 pm to
Countries all over the world have massive excess death. You can try to CT that, but it won't fly.
Posted by AuburnTigers
9x National Champion
Member since Aug 2013
17432 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:17 pm to
Gotta crack a few eggs to make Billions
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