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re: My son is losing his job due to not taking the vax.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:20 pm to Penrod
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:20 pm to Penrod
Once again why? Why should it be mandatory. There’s literally no good reason. Why doesn’t everyone focus on what’s good for themselves
This post was edited on 8/21/21 at 5:21 pm
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Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:20 pm to Penrod
Shut up
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:29 pm to Penrod
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It should definitely be mandatory in a hospital.
If it did what you think it did, it definitely should be.
If it prevented 10 Covid infections per 1,000 hospital employees vaccinated should it be mandatory?
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:30 pm to the808bass
I don’t think you can apply ARR from the general population to hospital employees. It’s likely their vaccine will be challenged far more often.
Unless your numbers are from a hospital population.
Unless your numbers are from a hospital population.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:31 pm to Penrod
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Really? You are willfully ignorant, then. They are a hospital! They are trying to keep people from dying. That has nothing to do with politics. Your son being vaccinated gives their patients a better chance of staying alive. How do you not see this?
Sir, you obviously only read the OP. But if you want my answer to this question please go back a few pages and you will see. Btw, I wholeheartedly disagree with the 'better chance of staying alive' mantra. That is just patently not true. If the msm and social media would let those that put out data and opinions opposite of theirs not be cancelled/deleted/banned then there would probably be a lot more people who believe like many of us do.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:32 pm to Tiguar
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It’s likely their vaccine will be challenged far more often.
It’s also likely that a large portion of them have already had Covid.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:32 pm to the808bass
Possible, but unknown. I say draw antibodies and make the decision after.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:33 pm to Tiguar
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Possible, but unknown.
It’s unknown for the individual. It’s known for the cohort.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:33 pm to Penrod
Why can’t the people scared of dying get vaccines why does it matter what I do? You either have to admit your vaccine doesn’t work or you’re just a bully more concerned about other peoples business than your own
This post was edited on 8/21/21 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:33 pm to the808bass
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fricking idiot
Why?
Look I served just like his son. We served to protect the freedom of personal property rights.
That company his son works for has ppr, his son has ppr. His employment is at will snd they are free to set the terms of employment so long as it's within the framework of the law.
All of you claiming all of this is unconstitutional are wrong. Period.
I will fight to the death for your right to refuse the vaccine
I will also fight to the death for the right of the company to set the terms of employment.
What most of you don't understand is for many co.panies it's an insurance issue. The insurance companies feel their liability is much lower if someone is vaccinated so they are making a free market decision in the companies best interest.
I don't like the mandates and don't support them but I do support the right of the company to enforce them.
It's like some of you idiots can't understand that. Yall assume if someone supports the rights of the company we are automatically liberals. I'm about as far from that as you can be. Way more conservative or libertarian on these issues than 99% of the board.
But facts are alot on this board are fat as frick and could really benefit from the vaccine, but if you don't want to take it....that's cool too.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:34 pm to the808bass
Creating a two classed society ends in mass murders - buy ammo so you can be on the killing side and not the killed
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:36 pm to the808bass
Hence why I say get evidence of prior infection.
Every hospital employee really needs to have some innate immunity to covid whether its a vaccine or otherwise. Vaccines shouldn’t be mandated but there’s other options.
Every hospital employee really needs to have some innate immunity to covid whether its a vaccine or otherwise. Vaccines shouldn’t be mandated but there’s other options.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:40 pm to lsu777
You’re claiming that the stance that we should have more liberty leads to the government making us bake penis cakes. It’s the dumbest post in an entire thread filled with dumb posts.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:41 pm to Tiguar
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Every hospital employee really needs to have some innate immunity to covid whether its a vaccine or otherwise.
That’s a reasonable position.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:41 pm to lsu777
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fricking idiot
Why?
Look I served just like his son. We served to protect the freedom of personal property rights.
That company his son works for has ppr, his son has ppr. His employment is at will snd they are free to set the terms of employment so long as it's within the framework of the law.
All of you claiming all of this is unconstitutional are wrong. Period.
I will fight to the death for your right to refuse the vaccine
I will also fight to the death for the right of the company to set the terms of employment.
What most of you don't understand is for many co.panies it's an insurance issue. The insurance companies feel their liability is much lower if someone is vaccinated so they are making a free market decision in the companies best interest.
I don't like the mandates and don't support them but I do support the right of the company to enforce them.
It's like some of you idiots can't understand that. Yall assume if someone supports the rights of the company we are automatically liberals. I'm about as far from that as you can be. Way more conservative or libertarian on these issues than 99% of the board.
But facts are alot on this board are fat as frick and could really benefit from the vaccine, but if you don't want to take it....that's cool too.
Sir, I agree with the majority of your post but you are off on a couple of items:
1. I served, army enlisted, air force officer; not my son. But I consider what he does service as well, just in a different context. But he vehemently denies ever being a hero and does not Tiktok. lol.
2. His hospital is a government owned hospital, not a business. Not sure but I think the constitution may address those two entities differently.
Otherwise I like your post. But question, would you also fight for the employees right to tell the employer to pound sand for enforcing these mandates?
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:42 pm to the808bass
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You’re claiming that the stance that we should have more liberty leads to the government making us bake penis cakes. It’s the dumbest post in an entire thread filled with dumb posts.
It was all time
Posted on 8/21/21 at 6:06 pm to the808bass
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You’re claiming that the stance that we should have more liberty leads to the government making us bake penis cakes
No dumbass, I'm claiming begging the government to step in and stop employers from being able to set the terms of employment is a huge step in the wrong direction. One that has already started and the dick cake is a perfect example.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 6:09 pm to Topisawtiger
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Otherwise I like your post. But question, would you also fight for the employees right to tell the employer to pound sand for enforcing these mandates?
Absolutely but that doesn't mean their aren't consequences.
A private business should be able to set the terms of employment as they see fit.
As far as it being a government owned...I disagree they should be able to force you be able to take it. I was forced to take anthrax and didn't like it. But I was a gi and the government essentially owned me and my body and I volunteered to do that.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 6:10 pm to TrueTiger
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It's time for the non-vaxed to form unions and start demanding worker's rights
What right has been violated?
Posted on 8/21/21 at 6:11 pm to Topisawtiger
I hate it too, but as much as I hate the infringement on private liberty, businesses have the right to make whatever policies they see fit as well.
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